If you find that it is all bad then it is...for you. 

I'm almost tempted to go the opposite way just to see whether I can pull off the lie...

....mmmmm...there must be a 'turd polisher' effect I can use.....

Well.....  I am going to continue to make music.  I play all of the instruments on my songs, one track at a time, to a drum track.  The only thing I can not play is drums, which I have to program.  It just is not convenient for me to have a drummer come set up a set in my family room eveytime I have the inspiration to write and record a new song.  I also have not mastered the art of playing all of the instruments by myself at the same time.

Bottom line, I am having more fun doing this than all of the rest of my time in the last 40 years playing music.  I can work at my own pace on my own time.  At midnight, when the inspiration hits, I have the ability to record.

If this is cheating, then I will continue to cheat.  I generally do not record anything that I could not do live, or have a 4-5 peice band do live with me.  I enjoy collaborating and do at every opportunity.  When I can't play a piano part to my satisfaction, I recruit some help. 

I've studied the history of popular music probably a lot more than most folks around here, so I know from whence what came from what and how we got to where we are

There's a guy called 'Moshkaie' who says this kind of thing all the time at the CH. He thinks we're all Philistines. I think it's somewhat arrogant to assume, or even guess, that you know more about a subject than a lot of other people whom you haven't even met.

It's the old song and dance...

"I, alone, know the Truth, and none stand above me"

To claim to be a student of the history of popular music, while at the same time showing you've not kept up on it for about fifteen years is a bit of a stretch.

Geez, that's getting close to conforming to religious dogma's.
Better read the Forum TOS again

To claim to be a student of the history of popular music, while at the same time showing you've not kept up on it for about fifteen years is a bit of a stretch.

Ain't that always the way though?

MakeShift


Well.....  I am going to continue to make music.  I play all of the instruments on my songs, one track at a time, to a drum track.  The only thing I can not play is drums, which I have to program.  It just is not convenient for me to have a drummer come set up a set in my family room eveytime I have the inspiration to write and record a new song.  I also have not mastered the art of playing all of the instruments by myself at the same time.

Bottom line, I am having more fun doing this than all of the rest of my time in the last 40 years playing music.  I can work at my own pace on my own time.  At midnight, when the inspiration hits, I have the ability to record.

If this is cheating, then I will continue to cheat.  I generally do not record anything that I could not do live, or have a 4-5 peice band do live with me.  I enjoy collaborating and do at every opportunity.  When I can't play a piano part to my satisfaction, I recruit some help. 

Damn, man. Where are people coming up with this stuff? Are you playing the notes yourself? If so, you aren't cheating. Ultimately, the thing is that, if you are a musician, it's your responsibility to play the right notes, at the right time, with the right dynamics and tone. If you are doing that, then you aren't cheating. Why does everyone continually, despite my constant explanation to the contrary, think that I feel that it's 'real' if you don't record it live on one mic without a single overdub? It's not about RULES, it's about HONESTY. If you are honestly playing and/or singing the notes that I hear, then that's it.
 
I use BFD myself, though I play the parts. It's not that hard to do if you work at it. The keyboard isn't be the best way to do it for sure, but it can be done. A MIDI percussion controller helps a lot. Playing with sticks makes all the difference as well. I bought a little practice drum pad four or five months ago and I've been practicing regularly on it, in preparation for the day when I can at least get a little e-kit. Sitting there playing on that pad with a metronome has done more to improve my timing in these past months than anything I've ever done. I highly recommend it.
 

jamesg1213

I've studied the history of popular music probably a lot more than most folks around here, so I know from whence what came from what and how we got to where we are

There's a guy called 'Moshkaie' who says this kind of thing all the time at the CH. He thinks we're all Philistines. I think it's somewhat arrogant to assume, or even guess, that you know more about a subject than a lot of other people whom you haven't even met.

It's not arrogance, it's just simple statistics. The vast majority of people have not looked substantially into the vast majority of subjects, because there isn't time to do so in one life. So, if you have looked fairly heavily into a given area, then it's a given that you will know more about it than the vast majority of the people you meet. Just like they are likely to know more about some other subjects (that they put their time into) than you do. Do you really think that everyone in this discussion has watched literally multiple hundreds of documentaries on the history of popular music? I doubt it seriously. If everyone here by some crazy chance has, then of course I appologize.
 
And I wasn't even saying it to imply that everyone else is an idiot. I was saying to protect myself from other people who are throwing all kinds of crap in my direction, for the simple reason that I argue for honesty in music. And for this I'm treated like some kind of a-hole.
 

trimph1


It's the old song and dance...

"I, alone, know the Truth, and none stand above me"

Wow. I love the way you guys are so incredibly judgemental, without even providing any real arguments of your own, just taking whacks at me about being judgemental, when I'm just expressing my opinion and trying to explain it. I have never said, implied, or even thought anything remotely like that, and if anyone thinks I have then they are projecting wildly.