2017/08/02 19:54:22
bapu
Slugbaby
A friend of mine did this recently, with his super-tight backing band.
Direct to PC (in a full studio), he recorded 13 full songs.
Drums, bass, rhythm guitar live off the floor.  Vocals and 2nd guitar were overdubbed.  No digital trickery.
All 13 songs were mixed.
Album was mastered.
 
All this in one 16-hour day, and it sounded amazing.  


And here I thought a single song should take 6 months minimum.
 
You know, Tom Scholz old school.
2017/08/03 17:18:57
Slugbaby
Mesh
Slugbaby
A friend of mine did this recently, with his super-tight backing band.
Direct to PC (in a full studio), he recorded 13 full songs.
Drums, bass, rhythm guitar live off the floor.  Vocals and 2nd guitar were overdubbed.  No digital trickery.
All 13 songs were mixed.
Album was mastered.
 
All this in one 16-hour day, and it sounded amazing.  


Knowing how it was done, I'd love to hear something like that......is any of his stuff on Youtube or online?


He's got a few on Soundcloud:
Got That Lovin: https://soundcloud.com/samjammusic-1/got-that-lovin
Stand By Your Man:  https://soundcloud.com/samjammusic-1/stand-by-your-man
Don't Go Down:  https://soundcloud.com/samjammusic-1/dont-go-down
Underground:  https://soundcloud.com/samjammusic-1/underground
 
I first heard this album when I was asked to fill in as bassist with about 4 days to learn the full set.  Luckily I love these songs!
 
EDIT:  Now that I'm listening to it again, there may not have been many overdubs at all.
2017/08/03 17:20:45
Mesh
Thanks Matt...will give it a listen this weekend.
2017/08/10 17:00:17
Linear Phase
Limits are a very interesting.  In our time of overabundance - limiting is a positive thing.  
2017/08/10 17:13:22
tlw
I think this might have been linked to before, but even if it has been it's worth another post. A 1950s/early 60s studio using period gear and techniques.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-scxybnp0
2017/08/10 18:45:38
eph221
interpolated
I was thinking more acoustic or organic sounding stuff rather than electronic sounds. Or real instruments as musicians and older people often refer to them as.
 


 
Hi,
 
This brings up a point about the goal of acoustic capture.  In *old school* the goal was to capture the performance as realistically as possible.  Now the goal is to make it sound as good as possible after the fact through production.  What's your goal?  Would you eq a stradivarius?
 
 
Thank you,
 
2017/08/10 21:51:00
tlw
eph221
This brings up a point about the goal of acoustic capture.  In *old school* the goal was to capture the performance as realistically as possible.  Now the goal is to make it sound as good as possible after the fact through production.  What's your goal?  Would you eq a stradivarius?


The record it, then improve what you're recorded afterwards process has been around since recording moved on from just a microphone and a recorder, be that wax cylinder, a disc cutter or a tape recorder. Treating recordings with eq, compression echo and reverb was pretty normal by the 1950s. Nowadays we've more (and sometimes but not always better) tools to hand, maybe the problem, if there is one, is we over-use stuff because we have it rather than because it's adding something good to the recording we've got.

And I strongly suspect modern engineers, pros as well as amateurs, are much more inlined to use digital editing technology to try and salvage a so-so recording while an "old school" engineer faced with the same track would say "do it again". We can replace bum notes with other notes from the same track and remove glitches and so on in a way that was never practicable in the days of tape when editing audio in that way required a lot of skill with razor blades and adhesive tape. Same applies to quantising audio to sort out timing problems, something not feasible to do in pre-DAW days.

Exactly what "realistic" means isn't always clear either. Someone I know refuses to have their very nice 18th century violin (not a Strad, made by one of the other Italian makers of the same period) recorded digitally, but insists on tape. Because to her ears tape is an "exact, perfect copy" of the sound of her instrument and "digital sounds thin, scratchy and nothing at all like it." That's having one experience of using one mic then splitting the signal to tape and Pro Tools at the desk, by the way. She says she insisted on no eq, compression or added effects/processing at all.

The tape sounds to me like it's pretty saturated, but to her it sounds spot on. The unprocessed digital recording does sound a bit more harsh than the tape, but I suspect that's because the tape artifacts flatter the sound, not because digital is inherently "unrealisitc".
2017/08/10 21:54:12
eph221
Why on earth did you just post that, except to propose a narrative that was never implied?  I talk to alot of people in the information age that dissimulate  the point of a post.  It's chronic.  We need better schools.
2017/08/10 22:10:14
bapu
Hey guys,
 
Y'all should line up to apologize to eph for not being exactly like him. It might help out his ego.
 
 
 
 
I keed I keed.

2017/08/10 22:11:49
eph221
:
© 2026 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account