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2014/11/17 06:02:40
The Maillard Reaction
How about if you mix with the mixer in the same room as the mix monitors?
2014/11/17 07:58:25
Jeff Evans
I think it is a great concept. In a studio situation I feel though you need a separate computer to control it permanently, not your DAW computer. The controlling computer is your mixing console. It is easy to set that up.
 
It is still geared for live use. I would like them to create a studio version.
2014/11/17 09:31:05
Karyn
mike_mccue
How about if you mix with the mixer in the same room as the mix monitors?


The fan in the 32AI is noisy in that it is easily picked up by a mic in the same room, making "quiet" recordings sound noisy.  It's not loud enough to cause problems with your mix during playback.
2014/11/17 09:35:17
Karyn
Jeff Evans
I think it is a great concept. In a studio situation I feel though you need a separate computer to control it permanently, not your DAW computer. The controlling computer is your mixing console. It is easy to set that up.
 
It is still geared for live use. I would like them to create a studio version.


If you're using an RM in the studio you just connect to it like any other audio interface.  You use it's inputs and outputs and ignore all the rest.
 
If you MUST play with it, say for monitoring, the remote interface is part of the driver, so using a separate computer to control it doesn't gain anything.
2014/11/17 15:32:56
Jeff Evans
I dont agree Karyn.  I can see where you are coming from.  I work with a computer and a digital mixer and various input sources coming into the digital mixer.  For example there are situations for me where I dont even turn on my main DAW at all but just do some stuff with the digital mixer and the monitors. eg listen to a live synth or a CD player etc.. Bit silly to fire up your main machine just to do this.  That is the reasoning behind always having a smaller dedicated computer to control the hardware.  I believe the software is very light on the CPU so a very reasonable laptop could do the job very easily.  Also less likely for things to go wrong with the mixer software while your main machine is under serious load too.
 
I still would like to see Presonus (or anyone for that matter) develop a total studio version of this instead.  ie be nice to have all the inputs and outputs on the rear of a studio version of this rather than the front.  (maybe mic inputs on front and all the line inputs on the back perhaps)  It would be neater and look much nicer too.  Plus some extra features such as full monitoring options, multiple headphone outputs with programmable options there etc.. More internal bussing and effects processing etc..
 
But it is an interesting development and could signal the way forward in the future I guess.  The potential for this to be way more powerful than current digital mixer technology is enormous not to mention the fact they can update the mixer software regularly giving it new features all the time.  Something that is not so available with digital mixer hardware. 
2014/11/17 16:07:45
Karyn
Jeff, have you ever used any of the PreSonus mixers?  The software is light on the computer because it's just remote control. No mixer processing is done by it.  It doesn't impact the DAW at all because it's built into the driver.  By using the driver you're loading the control software by default.  And however hard you make the DAW work it won't affect the mixer, because the software is just remote control.
 
If you want to run an RM without switching on your DAW then an iPad is actually your best option.  If you opt for a cheap laptop then you may as well just turn on your DAW computer.
 
 
I agree there should be a more studio friendly version though.  I'd like A/B monitor switching and a remote volume control and talkback.  In fact everything the remote unit for the FireStudio 2626 gives me...
2015/01/11 02:27:50
eric_peterson
Finally got my hands on one of these a few days ago. Waiting for Dante to be realized, so I'm giving it a spin with the unsupported fw400 using a $10 fw400 to fw800 adapter. With fw400 and a 64 sample buffer size I can run Presonus's "Capture" to record all 52 inputs simultaneously and  the Windows DAW CPU meter never crests 3%. Can't try out 88.2 or 96 kHz due to my 25 foot long FW cable.
 
I did have a UC Surface crash though while running it on my DAW, so the jury is still out, I'm hoping it was an isolated event.  Need to keep pounding away on it while the return window is still open. I want this to work! 
 
Compared to my rack full of 4 m-Audio Octane's this thing really runs cool! Love the lack of a fan, its dead silent. 
 
Anyway, it seems to work OK, haven't tried it with SONAR yet, but will soon. The potential for eliminating wiring and excessive heat producing gear in my studio is staggering. I hope it works out! 
2015/01/11 06:21:45
Karyn
Let us know how it pans out Eric,  I want one of these as well though mainly for live use.
2015/01/17 01:33:38
eric_peterson
Got a few hours of stick time mixing with SONAR using my existing FW400 port:
    https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?p=25706#p25706
It seemed to be working fine with X3, but I will pound on it more next weekend. 
This wasn't stressing the RM since it was only two tracks, but it's the mode I'm working in for 90% of the time, so it's a good test for me.
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