I'm not sure that how good he is at engineering is directly relevant, really. It would still be kind of lame to be such a constantly condescending arse, even if he was the greatest, most successful engineer around.

Harsh....




....but fair.

What sounds correct to you Mr McCue?
Do you think there should be standards, Like the ones sugggested by others more knowledgable than us?
Your question suggests you do, and also that there are guidelines and no set rules per se.
I see some have answered, shared their knowledge and views freely. While others have questioned your motives. It has me wondering what are your motives?
If there is a teachable moment, then I would ask that every forum member use that opportunity to do so. I applaud any member that shares his knowledge freely. Having opposing views, even being outright wrong, one or many can gain knowledge through discussion. That's why we are here isn't it? That's why I'm here. 
*Why are you here?



* when I write "why are you here?"  I'm not trying to be "snarky" I'm truly asking. Is it to impart knowledge? To gain knowledge? Something else? All of the above? There are no wrong answers to this question.
I know why I'm here.

Jonbouy


Reece I'm sorry to have to point this out, but remember how Jessie Sammler had some of us duped as to what he really was?

It's a similar thing mate.

It's kind of like somebody waffling on about drama thinking there is a similarity between it and the making and producing of music.  There is of course some similarity there but it's not the same thing.

There is definitely some knowledge on an engineering level of how audio works here but none of it has ever been successfully applied to making music to any standard of broad appeal.

The man doesn't even know how tuning a guitar works correctly yet he pitches himself as a connoisseur of fine instruments, he's confirmed here in the last week he hasn't got a clue how to record a singing performance, yet he castigates with remorseless ill intent others far more capable than he inferring that in some way they are dim-witted.

In short I'd say he's hood-winked many of us for a long time.  It all fell apart for me in the last few weeks.

I'm just glad I never sent any money.

It's been really disappointing for me as I grew quite fond of what I thought he was until I found that he didn't have the size of personality to apologize to somebody where I'd judged him on my own principles to be completely out of line.

 
I'm surprised it took you guys so long to figure this out.

Mike,
Some time ago a forum member, Chris Harbin (IIRC), posted a link to a plugin that was a Dynamic Range meter.  The website, which I will post below, has a video which gave some historic background on the loudness wars.  I know most of us are familar with this so some might find this video boring.
 
In short, my reasearch into this plugin (I simply forgot to purchase it), led me to believe that this was a useful plugin.  I believe the developer lists dynamic range values that are generally accepted for specific genere of music.  I believe these values are based on the dynamic range of previous recordings dating back over the course of many years.  IMO, this is worth checking out.  Since you have reminded me of this plug, I just might go back and purchase it. 
 
There may already be other sortware that offers this type of metering.  If so, this only shows my ignorance on this subject matter.  I see you rerferenced  -14 dbfs RMS.  This might be the same thing the plugin does.  Anyhow, I think it offers an apporpiate answer to your question.
 
http://www.dynamicrangemetering.com/
 
Suggested DR values:
http://www.dynamicrangemetering.com/node/1
 
Regards,
Rich
 
 

RLD

Jonbouy


Reece I'm sorry to have to point this out, but remember how Jessie Sammler had some of us duped as to what he really was?

It's a similar thing mate.

It's kind of like somebody waffling on about drama thinking there is a similarity between it and the making and producing of music.  There is of course some similarity there but it's not the same thing.

There is definitely some knowledge on an engineering level of how audio works here but none of it has ever been successfully applied to making music to any standard of broad appeal.

The man doesn't even know how tuning a guitar works correctly yet he pitches himself as a connoisseur of fine instruments, he's confirmed here in the last week he hasn't got a clue how to record a singing performance, yet he castigates with remorseless ill intent others far more capable than he inferring that in some way they are dim-witted.

In short I'd say he's hood-winked many of us for a long time.  It all fell apart for me in the last few weeks.

I'm just glad I never sent any money.

It's been really disappointing for me as I grew quite fond of what I thought he was until I found that he didn't have the size of personality to apologize to somebody where I'd judged him on my own principles to be completely out of line.

 
I'm surprised it took you guys so long to figure this out.

So I'm gullible...

RLD

Jonbouy


Reece I'm sorry to have to point this out, but remember how Jessie Sammler had some of us duped as to what he really was?

It's a similar thing mate.

It's kind of like somebody waffling on about drama thinking there is a similarity between it and the making and producing of music.  There is of course some similarity there but it's not the same thing.

There is definitely some knowledge on an engineering level of how audio works here but none of it has ever been successfully applied to making music to any standard of broad appeal.

The man doesn't even know how tuning a guitar works correctly yet he pitches himself as a connoisseur of fine instruments, he's confirmed here in the last week he hasn't got a clue how to record a singing performance, yet he castigates with remorseless ill intent others far more capable than he inferring that in some way they are dim-witted.

In short I'd say he's hood-winked many of us for a long time.  It all fell apart for me in the last few weeks.

I'm just glad I never sent any money.

It's been really disappointing for me as I grew quite fond of what I thought he was until I found that he didn't have the size of personality to apologize to somebody where I'd judged him on my own principles to be completely out of line.

 
I'm surprised it took you guys so long to figure this out.

As most regulars will know Mike has had a problem with me for some time, as far as I can tell simply because I dared to challenge one of his 'facts' which I felt I did without getting personal. Or at least until my integrity was questioned then I gave as good as I got, apart from I stopped bothering after I got called a troll.

When I first started frequenting these boards I had the utmost respect for him and found many of his posts helpful. I don't know what happened but at some point the world according to mikemccue seemed to take him over and I put him on block for an awful long time. There's only one other user I've ever bothered doing that to before and it wasn't even 10Ten. I felt it was the best way to stop my 'grudge' against him making me respond.

I too have no idea when he's being genuine or trying to take the piss. I stopped caring frankly and barely bother reading his posts any more. I take no pleasure from others seeing what I saw a while ago. I feel sorry for him. Sincerely - Karl

When I first started frequenting these boards I had the utmost respect for him and found many of his posts helpful.

I'm starting to wonder if I imagined that bit, I never bothered to check out any music if there was anything of note to appear ever.

Not that it is all that important that people share their music some can't for various reasons but you normally get an idea that somebody actually has some grounding.  I think in this case it is purely because his day job purports to audio albeit in some unrelated capacity to making music that the appearance of somebody that had some idea was typing the posts.

FF to a 'session' he's been working on and it all became apparent this is an enthusiastic but clueless beginner.  Add that to the idea he was slamming somebody making good use of a room Eq system on the grounds it didn't make any engineering sense he then shows there is some scope for believing in magic when it comes to suit him WRT guitar tuning.

When I pointed out my surprise at that his nose got put out of joint, in exactly the same way he relishes when he feels he's 'destroyed' someone else on the forum by being a smart-arse.

That's when my total fraud alarm went off.

As I am trying to type around the little Spring here I, too, am a little puzzled by a lot of what has been going on lately. 

All I can think of is something has bothered him for some time and it may not even be here that has him bothered...

 
 Well then, you could try this;  





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