There are simply too many angles on any given craft, whether it's working with wood, metal or playing an instrument like guitar to even approach mastering it all. 

Andres Segovia for example was said by many to be a master of the guitar in his style...and there is no doubt that he was one of the  best. However, if you were to have asked him, he would probably have said that he was still just a student of the guitar..... and that was only one style that he was even close to being a master of. 

John T


Yes, I'm certain there are still many unexplored approaches to trolling. One could, if one were so inclined, make it a daily pursuit.

Please, stop.








There's is always more to learn in every vocation. In every facet of life one can learn. One can learn from others as well as their own actions. Learn that some fights are better not fought. Learn to respect others views. I've learned that I am flawed, and no one is perfect. I have learned my actions affect others and the inverse is true. I have learned to give others the opportunity to do and be a better person, and ask for that same opportunity. Please someone, anyone learn from what I'm trying to say.


Ive learned there's is always a new moment and that moment is NOW.

mike_mccue

the foundational concepts of "craftsmanship" is that you constantly have to evaluate and then re-evaluate

IMO  This is the only way to be in everything one does and this rule applies to anything and everything.
 
Process improvement is a wonderful thing 

I think it is a universal thing that pretty much everyone feels.

Whatever their chosen 'craft(s)'.

So Mike, sincere question so I'll repeat it, what is your 'craft'?

I read somewhere that Neil Peart started taking drum lessons again.  This would have been sometime in the last 10 years.  You know, after Neil had already enjoyed a good 25-year run in Rush, and being largely regarded as one of the best drummers ever.

I took a lot of music lessons as a teenager (on alto sax), and I became decent.  Did well in some jazz competitions, won some local awards, nothing big.  But the driving force behind my efforts was "there's always someone better".  If you think you've reached the top, and you stop trying to improve, then game over.  You stagnate.

This would apply to any craft, wouldn't it?

Carl Palmer did exactly the same thing, albeit a bit earlier in his career, but it was still when he was enjoying global success with ELP & KC

In everything I do--music or life in general--I have found that the more I learn, the more I realize how much more there is to learn.  For me, the process goes in incremental leaps.  I'll learn something or figure something out and then build on that until it becomes second-nature.  Then it will be a short while until the next big revelation occurs. 
 
 
RabbitSeason

I read somewhere that Neil Peart started taking drum lessons again.  This would have been sometime in the last 10 years.  You know, after Neil had already enjoyed a good 25-year run in Rush, and being largely regarded as one of the best drummers ever.
 
 
A lot of the jazz guys who teach at the college where I work continue to take lessons.  It's the only way to guarantee that you will practice daily.  You have to have a drill sargeant, or at least someone to answer to, in order to force yourself to do it with that kind of dedication.   Deadlines are great motivators.

A Man's reach should always outstretch his grasp.

In my experience anyone can learn; from a complete beginner sometimes, even if that's only how to become a better teacher.

I read somewhere that Neil Peart started taking drum lessons again.  This would have been sometime in the last 10 years.  You know, after Neil had already enjoyed a good 25-year run in Rush, and being largely regarded as one of the best drummers ever.

I just watched a really, really long documentary from Neil Peart where he breaks down every song from their last tour and walks through how he came up with parts, how much time he put in to trying new things, and learning, learning learning.  


It was incredible to see a guy a sick as he is talking about how hard it was to play this part, or the difficulty he had in learning sections ect.  The amount of time he puts in to his drum parts is staggering.  Really makes you think about the actual question the op is asking.  It is pretty obvious the any real artist never stops learning.


This is the doc


http://www.amazon.com/Neil-Peart-Taking-Center-Stage/dp/B005BCADAY