2017/07/30 22:45:34
craigb
Hobos can be nasty.  A friend got bit and received immediate attention, but it still created a 2" by 3/4" hole about an inch deep on his leg.
2017/07/30 23:10:15
JohnKenn
Hobo's...
 
Interesting creatures if not creepy.
Regarded as being aggressive, but not true. They are shy and afraid of humans and will only bite if cornered.  2 bites out of 3 will be "dry" meaning bitten but no venom. Bad luck however to the one out of three.
 
Aggressive nature is mistaken for their poor vision. They look like they are charging across the floor at you but it's because they can't see you. On the males, looks like a huge set of fangs coming at you. These are their testicles on their head, talk about sex on the brain...
 
Up here in the Oregon outback, we got the Hobo and the Yellow Sac with necrotic toxin about a third as deadly as the Hobo. Not as bad, but still a bummer if bit.
 
Advice is to keep your bed 6 inches from the wall and any bedding 6 inches off the floor. Hobo's can't navigate too well on slick surfaces so may not be able to crawl in bed with you. I have on a couple occasions turned down the bedding and there is a Hobo waiting for you to roll over on it. They also like the inside of shoes and coats in closets if they have been left there for some time.
 
Slick bathroom sinks and tubs. They get in but have a hard time getting up the wall so you got to on occasion exterminate the bathroom fixtures.
 
Scary as hell, but all a part of Allah's creation.
 
John
 
 
2017/07/30 23:27:23
craigb
If you really want to get creeped out, type in "World's Largest Spider" into Google.  I've got the heeby jeebies now!
2017/07/31 00:33:31
kennywtelejazz
craigb
If you really want to get creeped out, type in "World's Largest Spider" into Google.  I've got the heeby jeebies now!


Gee thanks a lot Craig .
I was on my way to the bathroom and before I went I typed in "World's Largest Spider" into Google.
Now I think I will just hold it in for a while .

Kenny
2017/07/31 02:44:42
craigb
That one and the one campin' on the side of the house both gave me the willies, but what's with these people holding them, putting them on their faces and even in their mouth???  Yikes!
2017/07/31 23:23:18
JohnKenn
Holy Crap... Win 7 repair with over 200 updates. All I want is to bang on the music and have it work. Several hour ordeal ahead.
Idle time so just to throw out something on spider bites that may be of use. Just file away on the back burner until needed and hope that it will never be needed.
 
Spider poison, snake poison, about anything equipped with poison falls somewhat clean into one of two categories. The things that attack the nerves and things that rot out the local area. Prototypes would be like a Black Widow for nerve toxin and the Brown Recluse for rotting our flesh locally.
 
If faced with a choice, would way want to be bitten by a Black Widow. Several days of hell but a recovery and possible infection at the bite site.
 
The proteolytic poisons of the Brown Recluse, Hobo, are a miracle drug that cuts off circulation to the area as the proteins are dissolved to drink later.
 
Was observed that if you got nuked by a Hobo, the amount of fat in the area of the bite was a big determinant in how bad your road ahead was. More fat, more grave the outcome.
 
The docs will try to treat the bite first with two agents. "Cephalosporin" antibiotics to keep the rot from spreading to your body and brain. Steroids to reduce inflammation and damage, although there is not good evidence that the steroids have any survival value. Next option is to surgically cut out the area or amputate the limb if the first option fails.
 
So here's my spin on it...
 
Get the poison out of the bite area as quick as you can, as soon as you realize you are about to lose something. Traditional treatment keeps the poison in the area and tries to treat the symptoms as the body rots.
 
Go to the local hardware store and get some cheap MEK paint thinner. (not named properly, but okay for Methyl Ethyl Ketone).
Reason fat areas suffer worse is that the toxin diffuses into fat rich areas, as it is an oily substance. Get bitten in the butt and you are way more in trouble than if bitten in the hand.
 
Apply MEK to the bite area and surrounding area a couple inches out. Rub in and after a minute or so, wash the area. Let dry and it will look a pasty white because oils have been removed. Repeat the process every 20 minutes for 6 times.
 
Have been able to halt verified invenomations leading to necrosis by this method.
 
Applies to poison ivy, poison oak as well. In my aircraft fix it days, we were often trying to salvage a plane in the bush down in a swamp of poison ivy. As soon as the itch started, do the MEK nuke and no rashes. Same principle. Urushiol, allergen in oak, ive, sumac is fat soluble. Wash it out of the skin and no problem. The old aircraft mechanics were way ahead of the doctors.
 
Note that "Technu" over the counter stuff makes a refined mineral spirit extractor. Works okay, but would want to save my leg with hardcore rotgut MEK.
 
John
 
Only about a hundred updates left for Win 7. Keep me in your rosary beads.
 
2017/07/31 23:31:10
TheMaartian
This is the biggest one I've ever seen! I was very lucky to find a copy of the DVD of the Australian Broadcast Co airing of a live show  of the Glass Spider tour from down under. Peter Frampton on the guitar!
 

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