Without wishing to be egocentric, I think mike is - ineptly as usual - pitching at a point I made in another thread. If so, I'll save us all some time and point out that I said *mixing* has changed. My own view about *recording* is that it's not changed significantly since the late forties. If mike's posted this thread for some other reason than his usual clueless trolling, then please forgive me for not picking up on his intent. If however it is what I suspect it to be, then may e some of his friends could advise him to at least finish reading what he's reading before he starts swinging his dick around. 

mike_mccue


I guess I think that automated mixes and the ability to surgically edit out noises and flubs are fairly significant advancements.

I'm guessing instant playback may be helpful to the creative process too.


best regards,
mike

Engineers don't guess.

@ John_T

I have tried advising him Mr_T but he doesn't seem to hear.

I'm starting to think you've been right all along.  It's kinda sad really, the more I notice the less I find.

timidi

Nah, that's a myth brought on by middle age people that get stuck in an era related perception of what talent 'should' sound like. I remember my Dad demonstrating that idea to me at one time.

I often ponder this. 
I just think that today's yoots are lazy. What did your dad demonstrate?

I don't think youths are lazy, although there maybe a greater proportion of laziness on a societal level.  I also know some incredibly talented young musicians, arrangers and producer that smoke me by a wide margin.

My Dad demonstrated that you could dismiss an entire generation because you didn't dig their thing.

I made a career out of trying to prove him wrong...

I'm not sure I succeeded but he did hate the fact I was capable of earning more than him just for being a long-haired layabout bum...

Hmm. Well, I'm not campaigning for a consensus here, let me say that at least. 

In the interest of finding common ground, not based on slagging anyone else off, I agree entirely with your "should" point you make above. 

I think the issue seems more that one can do so much more with what is available but we seem to think only in terms of pop music ... which has never been anything but teeniebopper stuff really. 

As for the other issue..well..he does leave a fair amount of cans of worms around...

John T


Hmm. Well, I'm not campaigning for a consensus here, let me say that at least. 

No I didn't think you were.  That would have meant an assumption that I believe there was something pendulous enough to swing in the first place.

I do agree with your view that recording can't change that much though as there is only so much you can do with the elements of a mic/pick up and a sound source except to change the position of one or the other.  That aspect has remained constant.

soundsource>different type of mic, maybe? Contact mics?

The idea that an entire generation can be written off as collectively and fundamentally more lazy than prior generations strikes me as, to put it politely as possible, absurd.