2015/05/20 08:23:31
Alex B.
Hi all,
 
I would like to change some features of my pc, including the processor, memory and motherboard. The new motherboards are with USB 3. I read in the manual that the VS700 can have compatibility issues with usb3. What about in practice? Is it possible to take advantage of new computing resources while maintaining the VS700 with all its possibilities?
 
Thank you in advance to those who will help me :)
2015/05/21 05:40:18
Alex B.
Nobody has a small answer ?

2015/05/21 08:32:57
Doktor Avalanche
You could plug in a USB 2 PCI card if you have compatibility issues.
Even if you get it working via USB 3 socket it will probably downgrade itself to communicate via USB 2 protocols. There would be no advantage.
2015/05/29 19:54:21
Alex B.
Thank you for your back !
 
My new computer system happened (w8, x99 usb3 - i7 5930k, 64g RAM, full SSD) and everything working fine. :)
 
2015/06/03 02:13:50
Alex B.
Hi, actually i have some problems. Sonar stop working after few minutes (between 5 and 15-20 minutes) and i don't know why. The VS700R seems stop working too. If if i restart Sonar after the bug, it write there is no audio interface connected. So i need to shut off the VS700R and restart it for Sonar... or restart computer without restart the vs700r.
The problem come from USB 3 ? Because the drivers was successful installed.
It could be a midi in/out problem ? or a asio setup in sonar ?
 
If someone has a solution...
 
Thank you very much.
 
 
2015/06/03 07:03:26
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Alex B.
Sonar stop working after few minutes (between 5 and 15-20 minutes) and i don't know why. The VS700R seems stop working too. If if i restart Sonar after the bug, it write there is no audio interface connected. So i need to shut off the VS700R and restart it for Sonar... or restart computer without restart the vs700r.
The problem come from USB 3 ? Because the drivers was successful installed.
It could be a midi in/out problem ? or a asio setup in sonar ?



this looks like the audio driver crashed/locked up (because when just restart Sonar it believes there is no audio interface = audio driver hangs => reboot required)
 
unfortunately there are a zillion things that could cause this ...
 
... USB3 is only one possibility (about which I can only speculate since I have my vs700R hooked via USB, even using a hub and a usb extender which supposedly should give you problem s but mine works fine )
 
... MIDI: I don't think so (can't exclude it for sure because if you have some MIDI loop going this could crash/hang the audio interface driver)
 
... any 3rd party plugin used inside Sonar could hang and not release the audio driver ... 32 bit plugins would be the prime suspects causing something like this ... but could also be any other combination you use (I personally occasionally have this with Kontakt routed multi-out) ...
 
so you need to give more specific details on your situation if you want to get better help
2015/06/03 08:07:59
Alex B.
Hi ! thank you for your quick back.
 
Well, about plugins, it can't be the reason. Sonar had crash with only one track -withouth plugin- last time. I even was surprised.
 
How it could crash :
For example, I just move a track during playback, I stops playing, and there boom. It freeze. This is often by stopping playback it crash. It's not something I can predict.
 
Sonar was very stable before. I had two crashes per year and I use sonar for work (5 to 8 hours per day)
It is since I changed setup that it no longer works well... my system was completely reinstalled (windows 8, sonar platinum, VS700 set (bought there are 3 weeks ago), all plugins). Motherboard: X99 - Processor: i7 5930 - Full SSD - 64 GB RAM
I said that all drivers are up to date (chipset, etc.)
 
I will try to find a usb 2 pci express, but I am beginning to despair ... 
 
Edit : that said, I just thought that I did not delete the peripheral of the integrated audio card with the new motherboard. I'll try tomorrow.
 
 
2015/06/03 16:52:14
tlw
Although USB3 is supposedly "backwards compatible" with USB2 devices (and is with most) audio interfaces seem particularly prone to problems with what differences there are. I've a Cakewalk badged UA101 that simply won't work with a USB3 socket on a PC at all with ASIO drivers. Whether this is a hardware issue, driver issue or combination of both I've no idea.

The only way to be sure an audio interface will work with a USB3 socket is to check the manufacturer's website or documentation. On the other hand, MIDI interfaces seem to work OK.

If the V700 won't work with USB3 it's probably a good idea to pick up a cheap PCIe card with USB2 ports while they're still around. You might find that using a seperate card so the audio stream is kept apart from the motherboard sockets pays off in terms of improved latency as well.
2015/06/03 18:23:47
Alex B.
You probably right. I'm waiting for the pcie card now.
 
This is what happen when it crash.
 
Description :
Un problème a provoqué l’arrêt de l’interaction de ce programme avec Windows.
Signature du problème :
Nom d’événement de problème: AppHangB1
Nom de l’application: SONARPLT.exe
Version de l’application: 21.4.0.27
Horodatage de l’application: 5564f2df
Signature de blocage: eb9f
Type de blocage: 0
Version du système: 6.2.9200.2.0.0.256.48
Identificateur de paramètres régionaux: 1036
Signature de blocage supplém. 1: eb9fae932d398e4d30687f9e06dde9db
Signature de blocage supplém. 2: d1c8
Signature de blocage supplém. 3: d1c8d20703bf28b0f744bf1d3dafc9d9
Signature de blocage supplém. 4: eb9f
Signature de blocage supplém. 5: eb9fae932d398e4d30687f9e06dde9db
Signature de blocage supplém. 6: d1c8
Signature de blocage supplém. 7: d1c8d20703bf28b0f744bf1d3dafc9d9
 
I have disconnected VS-700C, and just use VS700-R. Still crashing...
I have disconnected native audio card (Realteck) from motherboard. Still crashing...
I have try to change some drivers in SONAR (from asio to wdm//etc.). Not working...
I have I unchecked the x64 double precision engine. Still crashing...
I'm waiting for a pcie usb2 now.
 
Edit : my motherboard has four USB 2 ... Still crashing after a complete reinstall of the system...
2015/06/12 04:17:56
Alex B.
Hi guyz,
 
Finaly my X99 (mothercard) got 4 USB 2... I did a complete and VERY clean reinstall of my system and...
I have still the the same problem... No crack plugin, original win 8.1... everything is fine...
 
I don't know what to do anymore....I begin to depress  ... someone of you do not have any other ideas about the nature of the problem?
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