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  • Behringer X-Touch MINI is a great Sonar controller now (p.2)
2017/08/01 13:44:06
almeister
And just for the record, the Kudos really deserve to go to azslow3 for his knowledge, expertise, and time. I was just the "test subject"  
Thanks again Alexey 
2018/03/21 16:05:17
tobiaslindahl
Just wanted to say thank you to azslow3 for doing this stuff. Looked at all sorts of different controllers and was actually thinking I would have to pay upwards of 1000 USD to get what I want/need. But after reading about teh features and thinking about my ACTUAL needs, and not just the fact that I want another sexy piece of gear, I came to the conclusion this more toylike device most likely does what I need. The tine footprint also works well in my setup as I can simply use in on top of my VPC1 without having to change anything.
 
Anyway, thanks again for doing thi stuff for the rest of us bums! :) 
 
2018/03/21 20:13:20
azslow3
Thank  you for nice words :)
 
I also think small device sits better on VPC. I have tried to put StudioMix on my CN... it does not fit and looks ugly. I do not have Mini, so I put VS20 instead.
 
Note that in case you use only 1 pedal for performance, 2 left pedals can be used as a controller:
* Sonar by itself support "MIDI keyboard shortcut", with "Shift". So if you learn one pedal as this "Shift", you have 88 assignable buttons.
* with AZ Controller, it is possible to do even more fancy things with pedals...
 
2018/03/21 22:05:20
tobiaslindahl
I will play around with it a bit to try it out when I get it later this week and I might ask you a question or two after that. :) 
The pedal info was interesting, the VCP1 has 3 pedals and 99% of the time only use 1 (sustain) so if the others can be used for other things that might be really cool! 
2018/03/22 06:18:00
azslow3
tobiaslindahl
The pedal info was interesting, the VCP1 has 3 pedals and 99% of the time only use 1 (sustain) so if the others can be used for other things that might be really cool!

"MIDI shortcuts" are described in https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=Templates_KeyBindings.4.html
There is no "MIDI Learn", but you can check which messages are sent recording short clips or in AZ Controller without any configuration.
But the left pedal is 67, middle 66 and I guess you know key names
 
Unlike with "Remote control", when "Shift" pedal is pressed, keys are not sent to the track. And with "Enable" checkbox you can quickly disable the feature to use the pedal normal way. I mean that is well done feature.
 
2018/03/22 07:36:22
iRelevant
It's good value for the money. I had one a few years back, but sold it as I didn't gel with it. I disliked the "clunkyness" of the rotary pots, not smooth enough for my taste. Didn't have any problems with it, and it seemed like a robust piece of equipment. 
2018/03/22 09:12:25
tobiaslindahl
azslow3
tobiaslindahl
The pedal info was interesting, the VCP1 has 3 pedals and 99% of the time only use 1 (sustain) so if the others can be used for other things that might be really cool!

"MIDI shortcuts" are described in https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=Templates_KeyBindings.4.html
There is no "MIDI Learn", but you can check which messages are sent recording short clips or in AZ Controller without any configuration.
But the left pedal is 67, middle 66 and I guess you know key names
 
Unlike with "Remote control", when "Shift" pedal is pressed, keys are not sent to the track. And with "Enable" checkbox you can quickly disable the feature to use the pedal normal way. I mean that is well done feature.
 



Can't believe I used this program for so long without doing this.  Oh well, live and learn I guess :) 
The item was out of stock so will have to wait for another week before I can play with it. In the mean time I will play around with using the keys on teh VPC1 to trigger some actions. Thanks for the tip! :) 
 
2018/03/22 09:16:22
tobiaslindahl
iRelevant
It's good value for the money. I had one a few years back, but sold it as I didn't gel with it. I disliked the "clunkyness" of the rotary pots, not smooth enough for my taste. Didn't have any problems with it, and it seemed like a robust piece of equipment. 




Yea, I dont expect a premium feel on this considering the price, it looks ( and might feel ) like a toy. But I believe I can get the features and functionality I need from it with azslow3's presets. It is more of a workflow thing for me than using it for mixing and heavy use of knobs for finetuning etc, so I hope it will tick those boxes. We shall see. Good thing is that if it is not a fit it wont break the bank :) 
2018/03/22 10:37:54
azslow3
iRelevant
It's good value for the money. I had one a few years back, but sold it as I didn't gel with it. I disliked the "clunkyness" of the rotary pots, not smooth enough for my taste. Didn't have any problems with it, and it seemed like a robust piece of equipment.

I can not change physical filling of encoders, but I can control the resolution with which they control parameters. The preset already support coarse (default) and fine (with "shift") resolutions and both can be easily tuned for personal taste.
 
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