When they play together, there are two basic and simple techniques;

1. Ducking, using a compressor on the bass that is triggered by the kick. so durring a short durration, "the attack" of the kick, the bass is ducked for a bit. To allow the kick to "punch in" because they are both typically down the pipe/middle.

2. EQ, you find where your kick EQ sounds good, or you like it, and see if you can cut a notch in the bass right at there? Or somewhere in a range that includes that freq.

Other than that, you can look for freqs in the bass or kick that compement? And boost harmonics? With tight Q's. Fortunately, my music doesn't really require this kind of precision? I think these techs are more important for modern hip-hop styles of music which are "dominated" by the bass and kick.
 
 
"It's fine for a musician or bassist to play whatever he wants. I'm just saying, when they go up high, the bottom drops out and it does. Whether it bothers you or anyone else like it does me isn't the point. The point is it DOES drop out and it presents quite a difference in my opinion. "
 
And let's face it? WE ALL LIKE A NICE BOTTOM!

bandontherun19


When they play together, there are two basic and simple techniques;

1. Ducking, using a compressor on the bass that is triggered by the kick. so durring a short durration, "the attack" of the kick, the bass is ducked for a bit. To allow the kick to "punch in" because they are both typically down the pipe/middle.

2. EQ, you find where your kick EQ sounds good, or you like it, and see if you can cut a notch in the bass right at there? Or somewhere in a range that includes that freq.

Other than that, you can look for freqs in the bass or kick that compement? And boost harmonics? With tight Q's. Fortunately, my music doesn't really require this kind of precision? I think these techs are more important for modern hip-hop styles of music which are "dominated" by the bass and kick.
 
 
"It's fine for a musician or bassist to play whatever he wants. I'm just saying, when they go up high, the bottom drops out and it does. Whether it bothers you or anyone else like it does me isn't the point. The point is it DOES drop out and it presents quite a difference in my opinion. "
 
And let's face it? WE ALL LIKE A NICE BOTTOM!

+1:
 
1) The bottom end is everything ... I've re-written all my music to enhance the lows: kick vs bass
 
2) EQ: The kick needs the lowest sonic space with a 30-54 Hz HPF/rolloff with Q=1 or lower (for me).  The Bass: 75-79Hz HPF (per Danzi's general bass tracks)
 
3) Manual Ducking does not take much time to do (an hour?). 
I myself cannot detect artifacts at low freqs ... so I'm not worried about sliding bass waveforms forward 10-30 msecs ... so the kick strikes 1st ... and the bass follows.
 
4) IIRC, Izotope recommends adding tape with a 10msec delay to the low end.
 
5) Ultimately the kick and bass do have their own sublime beatz going on in today's climate ... and I'm pretty certain few of us (including myself) have ever seriously exploited that magic.

Danny Danzi


one of those dancing bassists or "a bass guitarist" that seems to play a little more bass than maybe he should

I think I know one of those guys.

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Danny Danzi


one of those dancing bassists or "a bass guitarist" that seems to play a little more bass than maybe he should

I think I know one of those guys.

It sure ain't you....you're such a team player, you lock in with that kick drum like a good bassist should. But, it's nice to know you can literally play when you need to....but overplay and you...nah, not that I've ever heard. :)
 
-Danny