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2012/04/20 16:16:12
Rimshot
Sorry if this is a standard operating task but can someone please outline very clearly how I can select a range of volumes or velocites for my kick drum midi notes that I want to increase in volume or velocity by percentage?  I have a live kick track I played with pads.  There are many kick midi notes that are just too soft to trigger SD3 well.  The harder kick hits are fine.
 
I tried using the global editor (I am not at my computer right now) where you can find and change data but the end result is not good.  I don't seem to be able to get the right values in or out.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Rimshot
 
2012/04/20 16:34:55
spacealf
Event list and adding volume midi messages before every kick drum midi note, within range of 0 to 127 is the only way that I know to.
2012/04/20 17:10:35
Jeff Evans
Midi volume is not what he needs to alter here but midi velocities it seems might be the better option. Cannot you just get onto the page where you can easily see each note and the velocity associated with each note and just go in there and edit eg increase the velocities. Then keep checking over with SD3 to make sure they are louder. You could also try selecting a range of notes and use the required tool to draw all the velocities to come up to a certain level and then perhaps go in and alter a few here and there for realism etc.
2012/04/20 18:11:08
Bristol_Jonesey
Do it in the piano roll view.

Select the offending notes, then you have a choice of options.

1 - Process > Scale Velocity
2  - with them still selected, got back into Track View. find the clip where the highlighted notes are, then Right Click > Process effect > MIDI Effects > Cakewalk FX > Velocity

This will open up the Velocity tool in its own window where you can do all sorts of weird & wonderful things. If you haven't used it before, I suggest a brief scan of the help file to see what all the various controls do.

3 - Use Process > Find/Change to open up the Event Filter. Here you can select all your bad notes and perform the same action on them.

You can use the Event Filter located at Edit > Select > By Filter to select all notes within a certain velocity range (or any other criteria exposed by the EF). This might be better if you have LOTS of quiet notes, rather than trawling through and selecting them manually.
Then use one of the methods suggested above to set new velocities

2012/04/20 19:32:12
Rimshot
Thanks to all.  Got some work to do this weekend!  Much appreciated. 

Rimshot
2012/04/20 20:40:11
Jonbouy
Bristol_Jonesey


Do it in the piano roll view.

Select the offending notes, then you have a choice of options.

1 - Process > Scale Velocity
2  - with them still selected, got back into Track View. find the clip where the highlighted notes are, then Right Click > Process effect > MIDI Effects > Cakewalk FX > Velocity

This will open up the Velocity tool in its own window where you can do all sorts of weird & wonderful things. If you haven't used it before, I suggest a brief scan of the help file to see what all the various controls do.

3 - Use Process > Find/Change to open up the Event Filter. Here you can select all your bad notes and perform the same action on them.

You can use the Event Filter located at Edit > Select > By Filter to select all notes within a certain velocity range (or any other criteria exposed by the EF). This might be better if you have LOTS of quiet notes, rather than trawling through and selecting them manually.
Then use one of the methods suggested above to set new velocities


This.......^^^^

Scale velocity would be my choice here as it enables you to set the upper and lower limits to keep the individual notes within the range of a particular sweet spot on whatever library you are using.

Jonesy has got all bases covered here nicely.
2012/04/20 21:12:39
Rimshot
Thanks for that Jonbouy!  Have a great weekend!

Rimshot

2012/04/20 23:36:55
digi2ns
Yeh Ive just found that in the PRV screen at the lower portion where it shows the Velocity bars extending up, 
you can zoom out just far enough to have the section you want to mess with, 
drag your mouse across them selecting the notes, 
then go up to the actual notes and hover with the smart tool until you see the Volume/Velocity adjustment, 
you can then raise or lower the intensities of just those notes selected

I find it helpful when adjusting, editing, deleting multiple notes that this works great!!!
Also Ill have the Track View up on the other monitor so I can zoom way in and make sure Im on time if moving them (ie... Ill make a snare, rimshot, crash, ride track all on the same track) I can grab the snare notes and drag them in PRV to the right spot/note, then go down and grab the ride and do the same, etc.... Then bring up the mixer and get them all where they need to be on panning and so on.   You can do alot dragging and selecting multiple notes fast.
2012/04/20 23:40:33
digi2ns
The nice thing about selecting them the way I described above-
If you have converted audio files to the VST (Steven Slate or ...) The varying velocities will stay proportional to the way you hit them originally while raising or lowering the levels/velocities together. Nice, it keeps that human effect in it  
2012/04/20 23:45:47
foxwolfen
Jeff Evans


Midi volume is not what he needs to alter here but midi velocities it seems might be the better option. Cannot you just get onto the page where you can easily see each note and the velocity associated with each note and just go in there and edit eg increase the velocities. Then keep checking over with SD3 to make sure they are louder. You could also try selecting a range of notes and use the required tool to draw all the velocities to come up to a certain level and then perhaps go in and alter a few here and there for realism etc.

Beat me too it . Ya gotta be quick around you guys heh heh.
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