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  • Too Much: Updated Mix (p.3)
2016/09/20 21:47:28
kevinwal
Larry Jones
Kevin - This new mix is an improvement. I was having trouble before making out all the words and now I'm not, so that's a good thing, and more drums is always a good thing to me. But now it kind of seems as if the lead vocal is a bit too prominent in places.  I wonder if you could do something either with some kind of exciter on the voice to punch it through or maybe a limiter on the master bus to even things out a bit. Whatever you decide, you've got a good song and an excellent performance here, so I think you'd have to try pretty hard to screw things up.
     
kevinwal
     ...this track kind of wants to be a little sloppy.
     

     Damn right!




I'll have to give that a try. I already have some limiting going on obviously but I can try a more targeted approach. I appreciate your help!
2016/09/20 21:49:05
kevinwal
emeraldsoul
I'm late to the party, I heard the second mix I guess. Sounds like you fixed the kick, I think it's great. Love the jangly looseness, it really works. 
 
The only thing in the mix that sticks out for me is the bgv's - - -  have you tried slathering them with an obscene amount of flanger? It would chill them out, with the additional virtue of supporting the 60's - 70's vibe you have going. Going strong.
 
Love the rock and roll attitude here.
 
 
-Tom


Thanks, Tom! Flanging the bgv is a new one on me. I've heard of dumping a butload of reverb and I tried that but while it softened things it really muddied things up. I'm going to have to give that a whirl. I appreciate your help!
2016/09/20 22:47:02
emeraldsoul
Season the flanger to taste - it can be psychedelic of course. If I were you, I'd put on what the title says.  :)
2016/09/20 23:31:30
String Jammer
Love the song and performances! You've already heard the mix comments so I'll leave it alone. 
2016/09/21 03:10:13
kevinwal
String Jammer
Love the song and performances! You've already heard the mix comments so I'll leave it alone. 


Thanks for listening, I appreciate your feedback!
2016/09/21 03:12:32
kevinwal
emeraldsoul
Season the flanger to taste - it can be psychedelic of course. If I were you, I'd put on what the title says.  :)



Given the number of comments calling out the background vocals as an issue, I will commence to slathering as soon as I can. Or I may just redo them completely. 
 
2016/09/21 04:26:38
Makke
Great rock track.. Good vocs and well arranged/mixed backing vocs. Sounds good on my speakers
2016/09/21 06:17:01
kevinwal
Thanks I appreciate  you listening and commenting!
2016/09/22 19:35:40
synkrotron
Impressive... A great sounding original song Kevin.
 
Is this all you or do you have band project?
 
Either way, this sounds really good to my ears... I'm late to the party so I am obviously listening to the latest version of the song.
 
cheers
 
andy
2016/09/22 20:07:51
kevinwal
synkrotron
Impressive... A great sounding original song Kevin.
 
Is this all you or do you have band project?
 
Either way, this sounds really good to my ears... I'm late to the party so I am obviously listening to the latest version of the song.
 
cheers
 
andy


 
Andy, thanks so much for your feedback. It's all me except for the drums, which is the Addictive Drums plug in that comes with Sonar. I was in a cover band for the last several years playing bass, but I just left it in August. All those guys are too busy with their own stuff to mess with mine. :)
 
It's just a few guitars, a bass and maybe four vocal tracks, two of which are the main vocal part doubled up. One of the guitars, however, is magic. My Epiphone Sheraton II with P90 pickups has an incredible tone. It's really kind of cheating to use that wonderful instrument, but I swallow my pride and sneak it in to everything I do. That guitar is the jangle-box sound (which I just adore) and the lead/solo parts. To round it out, the bass is a Fender American Precision bass and the other guitar is an American Stratocaster. The strat is the main rhythm heard at the very beginning and also the theme melody that joins in. Amps are all Guitar Rig 5 simulations, including the bass amp. 
 
Edit: I thought I'd go ahead and finish out the details of this recording, just because. :)
 
There's two lead vocal tracks, one doubling the other. You can hear a little slop in the second verse with that.
There's two harmony tracks, one slightly panned right, one slightly left.
 
The opening riff is a single track, a strack (using the GR Almost Clean preset)
The theme melody is also a single track using the HiWhite sim 
The jangly guitar (the Epi) is three performances, two panned right and left (pretty far but not to the stops) and on slightly off center.  One of the tracks uses the AtmoGit preset as a starting point, the other two use the Almost Clean preset.
The lead is the Epi with the MassiveWallOfRock preset.
There is a single bass track using the DI bass amp preset with some tweaks.
The Addictive Drums kit is the Studio Pop - Natural Timbre kit with the kick replaced with the Tamas Starclassic. That kick just has more definition to my ear. 
I've tweaked all of these presets and removed the reverb from them all, using a send to the reverb bus (same one the vocals go to) mixed to taste. The reverb bus uses the ReMatrix pro channel effect, set to all wet and using the GoTo Verb! preset.
On the mastering side I used the LPEQ plug and Izotope Ozone 7, all with custom fiddling.
 
And that's pretty much it. It's a pretty sparse project, actually.
 
Again, thanks for your ears and your kind words.
 
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