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2017/06/04 03:11:42
smallstonefan
I have 2013 Mega that I paid $160 for and really haven't used. It would be another $160 to upgrade it.
 
To you all - is it worth installing and trying to learn? Goove3 now has a serious on BIAB for Windows...
2017/06/04 12:55:00
BobF
smallstonefan
I have 2013 Mega that I paid $160 for and really haven't used. It would be another $160 to upgrade it.
 
To you all - is it worth installing and trying to learn? Goove3 now has a serious on BIAB for Windows...




I asked PG about updating Mega.  Their response was that there is no Mega-Mega upgrade.  If you want to update the programs, just buy Pro.  $69 instead of $160.
2017/06/04 15:57:05
smallstonefan
Bob, 
 
Am I understanding correctly then that the Mega content I bought for 2013 would work with the new version, so just do the basic upgrade to get that latest BIAB program?
2017/06/04 17:11:35
BobF
smallstonefan
Bob, 
 
Am I understanding correctly then that the Mega content I bought for 2013 would work with the new version, so just do the basic upgrade to get that latest BIAB program?




That's what the PG folks told me ... diff is I'm at 2016.  I would drop them a note just to make sure the Mega content hasn't changed.  My email to them was asking if there was a better price to go from 16 Mega to 17 Mega.
 
This is the response:
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"Hello Bob,

You do not upgrade from a Mega to a Mega, as your not getting anything new with that package other than new software. If you just want the new software then just buy the Pro. Otherwise your best options are either buying a 2017 PlusPAK or UltraPlusPAK which would give you new RealTracks along with the new software."
 
 
 
2017/06/06 09:33:39
kennywtelejazz
Jeff Evans
One of its applications (and I am sure Kenny will agree with me on this) is for upcoming Jazz musicians to learn how to solo over endless choruses.  Saves getting a band to play endless choruses live which is what we used to do a while back while learning to become a Jazz musician.  Now we don't have to hassle the band anymore.  Just set up BIAB and solo forever.
 
It is not very capable when a very unusual groove or feel is required. e.g. it is much harder to create something extremely original.  If its more conventional you are after then it is very good.




Hi Jeff,
 
Yes I do agree with you my friend  BIAB is a great practice tool
 
Here's an example of one of the first songs I have ever done w BIAB ..pardon the mix ...it was 7 years ago .
The midi parts that BIAB generated were imported into SONAR 6 and the Dimension Pro plays the sounds .

 
The way I used BIAB in that video is typical way a Jazz guitarist would use BIAB for a songs practice session .
 
In this example I had a tune I wanted to play .The tune is called Diving Duck Blues .

 
What I did here was I only put one chord in the BIAB chord chart . A simple G chord .
Then I went through a bunch of styles while I was playing along with them until I found a style that had the closest feel to what I was hearing and feeling.
Wrote out the full changes to Diving Duck Blues as a chord chart in BIAB  ...
After exporting all the parts out of BIAB and importing them into SONAR
I deleted everything that came from BIAB except for the drums ...
Recorded myself playing a 4 string Bass Part , a few rhythm guitar parts , did a little editing and then I played  a lead gtr solo that I happened to film ...
 
That's very easy stuff to do in BIAB . It's a good way kick start some music out of a blank page ...
There are some much heaver duty workflows I could share ...I'm gonna leave it at that for now and save them for another post if people are still interested ...
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2017/06/06 11:19:35
smallstonefan
Great playing Kenny! :)
2017/06/06 13:00:58
abacab
kennywtelejazz
 
In this example I had a tune I wanted to play .The tune is called Diving Duck Blues .
 
What I did here was I only put one chord in the BIAB chord chart . A simple G chord .
Then I went through a bunch of styles while I was playing along with them until I found a style that had the closest feel to what I was hearing and feeling.
Wrote out the full changes to Diving Duck Blues as a chord chart in BIAB  ...
After exporting all the parts out of BIAB and importing them into SONAR
I deleted everything that came from BIAB except for the drums ...
Recorded myself playing a 4 string Bass Part , a few rhythm guitar parts , did a little editing and then I played  a lead gtr solo that I happened to film ...




Hey Kenny, you sure can play some!!!  
 
Nice one! 
2017/06/06 13:15:21
Mesh
Kenny, you're cheating..........you're playing the guitar!!
2017/06/06 13:26:58
BobF
Mesh
Kenny, you're cheating..........you're playing the guitar!!




Yeah, he's making those BiaB tracks sound better than they really are 
 
2017/06/06 13:53:17
abacab
There's obviously some cheating going on there, but danged if I can spot it, LOL!!!
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