2017/05/05 13:42:00
Moshkito
sharke
Check out the chords in the opening music to Double Indemnity - fabulous. 
 





Get a couple of CD's ... that are totally awesome ... 
 
Bernard Herrman's soundtracks for many of the Sci-Fi films! AN ABSOLUTE must have! Some of the greatest music of the 20th century for me.
 
Carl Stalling's 2 CD's! He did most of the music for the Warner Bros' cartoons. Listening to these on CD without the cartoon is ... a very different experience, and you sit there and try to look for a cohesive link in all the pieces and there isn't one, because that link is visual, not musical! It's an AWESOME exercise on how to listen to music and appreciate its flexibility ... the guy was definitely insane!
 
If you get the chance, get from Amazon, a used copy of "Cartoon Music" book ... and you will be amazed at all the names associated with it. And it might even change your appreciation in music all around some, since now, it's almost like ... the music must have some visual content, and lyrics are not enough anymore!
2017/05/05 13:53:58
Moshkito
Hi,
 
Other fabulous soundtracks: (not in order_)
 
Little Buddha - Ryuichi Sakamoto
The Last Emperor - Ryuichi Sakamoto and David Byrne
Before the Rain - Anastasia (never found this band's material anywhere, btw!)
Blade Runner - Vangelis
Performance - Randy Newman, Mick Jagger, Merry Clayton, Jack Nietsche and others
The Double Life of Veronique - Zbigniew Preisner 
The Lover - Gabriel Yared
2001 A Space Odyssey - Various
Dr. Zhivago - Maurice Jarre
Some Nino Rota, although I can not name specific soundtracks right off the bat.
Journey of Hope - Terje Rypdal, Jan Garbarek and some more ECM artists
The Last of the Mohicans - Various
The Pillow Book - Various organized by Brian Eno
Not Mozart - Various composers. Satirical film off its rocker!
200 Motels - The Suites - Frank Zappa done with orchestra and choir. The last part of this, specially, is the best choir work I have ever heard! The whole thing is impressive and amazing!
 
Many more ... just not in my head right now!
 
 
2017/05/05 16:44:54
craigb
I prefer the works of John Williams personally.
 
(Though Danny Elfman has done some really good stuff as well!)
2017/05/05 20:06:24
jamesg1213
Tull in their misjudged white jumpsuit period ..love this song though. I like the story about the roadies moving Eddie Jobson's keyboards further apart before a gig, so he couldn't reach them both  I paid a small fortune for a VHS copy of this vid back then. Still got it.
 

2017/05/06 12:54:09
Moshkito
craigb
I prefer the works of John Williams personally.
 
(Though Danny Elfman has done some really good stuff as well!)




Danny has done more Cartoon Music than most anyone you ever heard!
 
JW is not an "original" composer, per se. His "Star Wars" stands out nicely, however, after one or two pieces, the rest of the Soundtrack is quite a bit of filler for the film, and not clear-cut music that was meant to be heard, and it was obvious that Lucas was only interested in a big blow title to catch audiences unawares, as that theme blared really loud in theaters that even had speakers UNDER your seats, when it first came out ... so you would feel like it was a bigger experience, and get a huge rush off the sound effects, which were dispersed really well over the whole theater, a throwback to many bands already using the "quadraphonic" sound on stage for audiences to get excited.
 
The stuff I mentioned, is much more ... way up there ... and not just some kind of theme music for 3 minutes, like most soundtracks are. Bernard Herrmann soundtracks, can all be listened to separate from the films, as Hitchcock many times only used a portion of it, and sometimes lowered the volume of the rest and then cut it off as the scene continued. When you hear the Sci-Fi soundtracks by Herrmann, you will be surprised ... it is masterful music, by an obvious composer, instead of a fill'er jingle writer.
 
Massive difference.
 
You will see/learn about this, when you listen to Carl Stalling CD's away from the cartoons ... you can't even mane the cartoon the piece of music was for ... and you've seen them all!
 
That's the greatest trick of all in music ... fool your listener into thinking nothing, or something else. But JW's work has suffered from a director that did not know how to use music at all, and Lucas is not a good example in that area at all, when compared to the masters in that area, like David Lean, Stanley Kubrick, Nicolas Roeg, Werner Herzog, and a handful of others that have strewn the music they used so well, that you almost thought that it was a total part of the film itself! And in all cases, most of the music was its own alone. But try listening to Maurice Jarre ... and realize where that famous theme came from! You probably have not seen that film, as it is not exactly an action film, and its focus is so strong on the acting, as to almost make it boring for many a viewer, specially in America, where a couple of reviewers hated the film, but the Academy got its revenge ... the film took many honors! Maurice Jarre, btw, is the father of the younger Jarre (Oxygene) and is also the only composer in film history to win an Oscar with conventional music and then also win an Oscar with completely digital composition later ... no one else has ever done that in film history. 
 
It ought to tell you what is more important ... and how the music is a difference maker! Not just an addon!
2017/05/07 07:05:20
sharke
I always liked the music in old cartoons. It amazes me how well they coordinated it with the animation (or rather, the other way around). 
2017/05/07 18:57:09
sharke
I'll tell you what though, Peggy Seeger's voice at 80 years old is something else.....
 

2017/05/07 19:40:21
craigb
Moshkito
craigb
I prefer the works of John Williams personally.
 
(Though Danny Elfman has done some really good stuff as well!)




Danny has done more Cartoon Music than most anyone you ever heard!
 
JW is not an "original" composer, per se. His "Star Wars" stands out nicely, however, after one or two pieces, the rest of the Soundtrack is quite a bit of filler for the film, and not clear-cut music that was meant to be heard, and it was obvious that Lucas was only interested in a big blow title to catch audiences unawares, as that theme blared really loud in theaters that even had speakers UNDER your seats, when it first came out ... so you would feel like it was a bigger experience, and get a huge rush off the sound effects, which were dispersed really well over the whole theater, a throwback to many bands already using the "quadraphonic" sound on stage for audiences to get excited.
 
The stuff I mentioned, is much more ... way up there ... and not just some kind of theme music for 3 minutes, like most soundtracks are. Bernard Herrmann soundtracks, can all be listened to separate from the films, as Hitchcock many times only used a portion of it, and sometimes lowered the volume of the rest and then cut it off as the scene continued. When you hear the Sci-Fi soundtracks by Herrmann, you will be surprised ... it is masterful music, by an obvious composer, instead of a fill'er jingle writer.
 
Massive difference.
 
You will see/learn about this, when you listen to Carl Stalling CD's away from the cartoons ... you can't even mane the cartoon the piece of music was for ... and you've seen them all!
 
That's the greatest trick of all in music ... fool your listener into thinking nothing, or something else. But JW's work has suffered from a director that did not know how to use music at all, and Lucas is not a good example in that area at all, when compared to the masters in that area, like David Lean, Stanley Kubrick, Nicolas Roeg, Werner Herzog, and a handful of others that have strewn the music they used so well, that you almost thought that it was a total part of the film itself! And in all cases, most of the music was its own alone. But try listening to Maurice Jarre ... and realize where that famous theme came from! You probably have not seen that film, as it is not exactly an action film, and its focus is so strong on the acting, as to almost make it boring for many a viewer, specially in America, where a couple of reviewers hated the film, but the Academy got its revenge ... the film took many honors! Maurice Jarre, btw, is the father of the younger Jarre (Oxygene) and is also the only composer in film history to win an Oscar with conventional music and then also win an Oscar with completely digital composition later ... no one else has ever done that in film history. 
 
It ought to tell you what is more important ... and how the music is a difference maker! Not just an addon!





John Williams has done a LOT more than Star Wars and Danny Elfman's main movie genre is the B-Movie type (with a lot more to his credit than just the Simpson's theme).  Adding to this list, I also like Phillip Glass.
2017/05/07 19:53:35
jamesg1213

2017/05/08 20:20:11
jamesg1213
Nice...what a voice Jimmy Barnes has.
 

 

 
 
© 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account