2018/02/15 01:00:13
Genghis
I agree with what you said about the 5150 III Jim.  I also swapped a couple of tubes to drop the gain a bit lower on the red channel and still never ran it past 11 o'clock on the dial. 
 
Congrats on the TC-50 and OX setup.  I bet that kicks all kinds of @$$. I'd be lying if I said I was't tempted to do that.  I've been using mics to record mine, but recently decided to get back into the Axe-FX thing.  I have the II, but couldn't resist getting on the list for the new Axe-FX III.  I think I'll be using it for effects with the amp live, but also using it in the studio. I like the way you can dial in everything on the amp for my live setup and adjust the solo boost to the right level, and tweak the tonestack on the amp without having to dig into an editor for the live setup, but like saving my presets with the exact settings I used for recording consistency with the AFX.
2018/02/15 16:02:58
scottcmusic
Jim Roseberry
The lack of PC support for the Editor is pretty short-sighted...
In the meantime, you can use an iPad to control the OX (instead of a Mac).


Interesting idea ... I wonder if I can get that app on my iPhone? That is something I already have.
2018/02/15 20:45:49
Jim Roseberry
scottcmusic
 
Interesting idea ... I wonder if I can get that app on my iPhone? That is something I already have.



Unfortunately... the OX control app doesn't work with an iPhone.
 
The OX was just released... 
I have to think UA will ultimately offer the control app for PC.
2018/03/11 01:26:32
DeeringAmps
Received my OX yesterday (and an iPad 2017 to control it).
30 day "buyers remorse" package on both.
Spent a couple of hours today "noodling".
Will put it thru some rigorous testing the next couple of days and report back.
It "feels" right; cautiously optimistic...
 
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2018/03/12 14:52:40
Jim Roseberry
Very interested in your thoughts on OX, Tom.
IMO, A nice amp into OX sounds better than either the Kemper, Helix or Axe-FX.
It's not that those solutions sound bad (not by any stretch)... but the real amp just sounds more... real.
I'm sure it's similar to a pianist playing a real grand vs. a sample library.
 
Pete Thorn just released a half-hour video demo of the OX (used with various amps).
Sounds amazing...
Don't recall Pete producing anything that actually sounds bad.  
 
 
2018/03/12 16:43:49
scottcmusic
I can totally see a hole in the current equipment market for a product like this OxBox, but priced more within the "What normal humans can afford" category. There needs to be something at right about the $450-$650 price point that works similar to the OxBox, but obviously can also be controlled by PCs.
 
I realize I am just dreaming out loud here, but a few key features that I think will really push a unit like over the top would be:
 
  1. The ability to switch between 4, 8, and 16 ohm speaker loads to accommodate more types of classic amps
  2. The ability to load in, and travel with, 3rd party Impulse Responses. Meaning you would need to be able to upload you own personal IRs, or even just use your favorite OwnHammer IRs for example, into the box to BE USED LIVE with it
  3. The ability to control it with a PC as well as Mac
  4. The ability to use it as an amp attenuator to play live through a cranked tube amp at lower volumes
 
I was really close to buying one of these OxBoxes. The only thing that stopped me was the fact that I also would have needed an iPad to control it ... that all seemed just a little too "spendy" for me.
 
But geez, it shouldn't cost this much. I have a Two Notes Torpedo Captor that was only $249 or so. The materials to make this are not that expensive. It is all just mark up and realizing you currently have no competition in the market place that enables price points like this.
2018/03/12 19:53:28
Jim Roseberry
The OX isn't cheap, but you have to think about what's it's replacing (and what that's worth to you).
To put things into perspective, a single Royer R121 is about the price of the OX.
Considering you get a *reactive* load box (not static), dynamic speaker models (not static like an IR), multiple good sounding mics (including room mics), an attenuator, and quality DSP (EQ/Dynamics/Delay/Mod/Reverb)... I don't think the price is out of line.
 
The OX is a complete (silent) guitar recording front-end.
Those who don't have ideal physical space (for proper room ambience), those who don't have space for multiple guitar cabs, those who don't have an extensive collection of mics (not to mention quality preamps); For these folks, the OX is a good sounding, super convenient solution.
FWIW, The dynamic cab modeling sounds more lively than using IRs.
 
IMO, UA rushed OX to market a little early.
No support for Windows or Android was short-sighted.
Though UA have been tight-lipped about OX's future, I can't image OX not eventually supporting Windows . 
Looking at UA's track record, they ultimately supported Thunderbolt on PC with their Apollo series.
Too large a market-share to leave abandoned...
 
 
 
 
2018/03/13 14:20:55
batsbrew
scottcmusic
I can totally see a hole in the current equipment market for a product like this OxBox, but priced more within the "What normal humans can afford" category. There needs to be something at right about the $450-$650 price point that works similar to the OxBox, but obviously can also be controlled by PCs.
 


SEE THREAD #2
2018/03/13 15:33:26
scottcmusic
batsbrewSEE THREAD #2

 
Hmmm ... that one admittedly went over my head ...
2018/03/13 15:57:16
Genghis
He meant post #2.  The cheap alternative the does a decent job.
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