2014/06/24 08:44:17
davdud101
Hey, everyone. I'm tossing around between several microphones and several midi controllers.
But when it comes to mics, between a ribbon and a condenser, which will be more versatile and universal?
I get the impression that I'd have an easier time with a condenser, but I need some backup and validation. 
2014/06/24 12:35:16
AT
What are you recording? 
 
An electric guitar?  Ribbon.  My sub-$100 MXL does a fantastic job of that, but it is about the only thing I use it on.  And it takes a lot of gain, which makes me no nevermind since I use stand-alone preamps.  But I don't know how it would fare using built-in preamps.
 
Vocals - a large condenser is most often used.  It might not be as smooth as a ribbon on guitar, but it will work.  As well as just about everything.  Higher end dynamics also work on just about everything, but you'll be spending $300+ for the classic ones.
 
Acoustic instruments - a pair of small diameter condensers are usually the best solution.  Or one if you can only afford that. 
 
Unless you are mostly recording electric guitar or acoustic guitar, a large condenser is your best bet.  Or a higher-end dynamic.  Get the most expensive you can afford and see how it works on the instruments you are recording.  Any of them should work, but one type and make usually float your personal boat if you are doing personal work in a project studio.
 
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2014/06/24 13:58:23
Starise
I agree with AT here...I think the condenser is going to be the best all around mic. A ribbon is usually a subsequent purchase. 
2014/06/24 17:25:36
spacealf
Get a condenser although it may be 48 Volts input. Otherwise, I sure there are many dynamic mics or condensers mics that foot the bill so to say. Ribbons like he said, take more gain, usually are fuzzy, and may break down at the slightest fault, but nowadays they may make them better.
 
A mic is usually nothing to drop onto a hard floor, or even drop.
 
2014/06/24 17:58:16
Guitarhacker
Yup... condenser for the first one. It's a good all around mic.
 
Ribbons are easily damaged if you are not extremely careful with them.
2014/06/24 18:20:26
SvenArne
Condenser for a desert island mic! Only thing most nice (or at least reasonable) LDCs might not work on is guitar cabs. Just make sure you don't get carried away with the all brightness!
 
Ribbon mics are usually very cool on guitar cabs and as 'specialty' sounds on other instruments but not really versatile IME. Granted, I have not used high-end ribbons such as AEA and others. 
 
A lot of respectable people often quote the classic Shure dynamics as good allround mics, but I just don't get it. The SM7 is the best one to me but only because it has a switch for attenuating the shouty high mids. I much prefer more open and brighter dynamics such as the Telefunken M80 or the classic Beyer M88. These can be used on most any source from kick drum to acoustic guitar and have the added benefit of rejecting room reflections!
 
Sven
 
 
2014/06/24 19:34:31
wst3
I think the correct answer is "yes"... but if you have to select one or the other as the first purchase I'm not sure it really matters.
 
If you think about it in historical terms people were recording with ribbons long before they were recording with condensors.
 
On the other hand, for any given budget you'll probably get a better condensor than ribbon, - there are more of them on the market, and their prices are ridiculously cheap.
 
Good to have to make the choice!
2014/06/24 20:19:41
davdud101
With that in mind (given that I won't be able to get a super high-end ribbon), and being aware of how many risks come with ribbon mics... I think I'm set on making the next purchase a condenser microphone.
 
Now it's between the condenser mic or the midi controller... XD
2014/06/24 20:33:06
SvenArne
davdud101
Now it's between the condenser mic or the midi controller... XD



Which please you most? The sounds you create in the air around you or the sounds that originate inside your computer?
2014/06/24 20:46:48
RobertB
To rephrase Sven's question,  which carries more weight?
I use my mics to record my acoustic guitar and recently, my voice (although I have yet to actually expose anybody to that).
I use my controllers to play the hundreds of instruments available to me via VST's.
When you get your mic ( I didn't say if because you are on a mission. It's going to happen), get a boom stand. I have two of them, and they are indispensable for positioning the mics.
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