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2014/06/10 05:44:13
twaddle
Can anyone tell me why an AC powered hub is better than a USB powered hub and what the advantages are?
 
I'm looking at two on ebay and am slightly confused as they seem to be identical apart from one doesn't come with an AC power supply although one can surely be used if they are the same yes there is an £8 price difference so I was thinking it would be cheaper to buy the one without the power supply and then et the power supply separately.
 
These are the two I'm looking at
 
USB powered hub
 
AC Powered hub
 
Of the devices that will be running through it only one is actually USB3 but I figured if I'm going to buy a new hub it would be better to have a USB3 one for future hardware.
 
 
Any thoughts?
 
 
Cheers
 
Steve
2014/06/10 06:52:26
fireberd
The USB port(s) in a PC can only supply a limited amount of power.  Depending on the USB devices connected to a hub,  they can exceed the available power and the devices will not work or work properly.   Best to always use a "powered" USB hub to avoid any potential problems.
2014/06/10 09:20:03
rtucker55
fireberd
The USB port(s) in a PC can only supply a limited amount of power.  Depending on the USB devices connected to a hub,  they can exceed the available power and the devices will not work or work properly.   Best to always use a "powered" USB hub to avoid any potential problems.


+1
2014/06/10 09:55:58
Cactus Music
USB 3 was introduced not only for faster trasnsfers but it supplies a lot more juice, look it up. 
2014/06/10 10:01:24
twaddle
Cactus Music
USB 3 was introduced not only for faster trasnsfers but it supplies a lot more juice, look it up. 




 
That's kind of why I was asking as I'd heard that too but does it supply enough extra juice?
This is a 7 port hub and although it might now always be running 7 devices I was kind of hoping
it might carry enough power not to need a separate power supply.
 
Still the hub I have listed can have a power supply if required.
 
Steve
 
2014/06/10 10:39:10
rtucker55
Steve,
 
You could look up the specs for the devices you plan to connect and sum that Total current draw (mA). Compare that number (in mA) to the USB 3.0 spec for current sourcing (mA, I think its only 900mA) and that would tell you if you have enough without the external supply.
 
Just thinking here, on my end, and 7 devices into a hub routed to a single USB port sounds like it would not only require an external PS but would also cause some bottlenecks if the devices were simultaneously used in real time.
2014/06/10 10:52:13
twaddle
Thanks RT
 
I'm not sure if a new hub is the answer to my problem.
 
The problem I keep having is with my wireless mouse, the hub is sat about 40cm from the mouse and yet
quite often the mouse movement is very poor and unresponsive and at other times it just doesn't work at all.
I've been using this powered 7 port usb 2 hub for about 5 years now and was thinking maybe it was at fault so decided replacing it might (hopefully) be the solution.
 
Also my ps2 keyboard died recently so I'm borrowing a cheap generic usb one and that was working via the hub for a while but right now it isn't so I just don't know what the best thing to do is but I think I'll be getting a ps2 keyboard again as I don't mind having a corded keyboard but I hate corded mice so that has to be wireless.
 
It's been driving me crazy for far too long though
 
Steve
2014/06/10 11:41:18
rtucker55
Steve,
 
For just a mouse and keyboard an un-powered hub should be no problem at all. It's when you start stacking things like non-powered ext HD's and such that a lack of power becomes more likely.
 
Have you tried plugging the USB keyboard or mouse directly to a USB port on your machine to see if it performs better? At least that would make your current usb hub less likely at fault.
 
I agree with you about the mouse as that is a relatively short distance to be having issues unless there is some kind of interference or it is just old and tired like myself... 
 
Wishing you the best of luck!
 
Kind regards,
Rick
2014/06/10 12:09:44
ampfixer
My USB 2 quad capture and APRO keyboard both use 500 ma each. That's the max current for USB 2 so they can't share and require their own ports. I use my powered hub for outboard stuff like mice and receivers for wireless keyboards. USB is weird. I have had to try different configurations to get everything working well. Some devices just don't like certain ports. No idea why, but when something acts up I check the batteries (if req) and try another USB port.
2014/06/10 18:58:24
Cactus Music

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