Hi,
 
I'm not sure that England is worse than other places ... however ... I do think that the media is better centered to let us know something happened, whereas if this happened in many other places, you might not find out about it for weeks, if ever.
 
In many ways, the media is the problem. In the old days, you used Radio Free Europe and blasted the communist block with Beatles and Chuck Berry ... and nowadays, you blast the headlines with stories about these bombings, and I think that these have a tendency to duplicate and continue and spread ... like someone saying ... what a great idea ... and this or that place are always empty of security ... or some thing or other like that.
 
I kinda have this idea that this is just a copy of the typical Hollywood (and other places) movies with glorified violence ... and I can't help wondering if glorified sex might actually be safer to show people than ... 
 
It's a weird time, and really hard to make a judgement, however, I came from a fascist country and we all wanted some freedom to get out also ... but in those days, the arts and literature, were the arms ... that played a really strong role in making sure that things are noticed.
 
How times have changed!
 

Yeah....totally weird

Moshkito
Hi,
 
I'm not sure that England is worse than other places ... however ... I do think that the media is better centered to let us know something happened, whereas if this happened in many other places, you might not find out about it for weeks, if ever.
 
In many ways, the media is the problem. In the old days, you used Radio Free Europe and blasted the communist block with Beatles and Chuck Berry ... and nowadays, you blast the headlines with stories about these bombings, and I think that these have a tendency to duplicate and continue and spread ... like someone saying ... what a great idea ... and this or that place are always empty of security ... or some thing or other like that.
 
I kinda have this idea that this is just a copy of the typical Hollywood (and other places) movies with glorified violence ... and I can't help wondering if glorified sex might actually be safer to show people than ... 
 
It's a weird time, and really hard to make a judgement, however, I came from a fascist country and we all wanted some freedom to get out also ... but in those days, the arts and literature, were the arms ... that played a really strong role in making sure that things are noticed.
 
How times have changed!
 

I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make here Pedro 
 
 

I tried twice to write a reply Steve, but gave up.

SteveStrummerUK
 
I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make here Pedro 

 

jamesg1213
I tried twice to write a reply Steve, but gave up.

 
 
*Pfft...*  Neanderthals. 
 
 

jamesg1213
I tried twice to write a reply Steve, but gave up.

This is a hard thing to get into perspective and I'm not sure that mine is right, or just an idea. But I grew up in a time, when the short wave was huge and you could hear some of those things being blasted in Europe, and then seeing the things being stopped in Portugal (censorship of way too many American movies even, with scenes taken out and voice overs/subtitles erased), and what things have changed since the 1950's ... you have to look at that history ... and you can see a pattern ... the same thing happened in England with the pirate ship history that changed the course of popular music forever. The BBC did its best to stop it for years, until they lost the battles and the war!
 
History shows something ... that we're not wanting to see, is how I look at it. It's showing a future that is a very harsh reality ... but it probably has always been like that, anyway! Even without the music. Look at the arts in the 1800's in Europe and you know that the wars in Europe, were influencing everything in the arts, and the extreme could even to be said to be the famous Marquis ... but then, with guillotines on the popular front like rock'n'roll, I'm not sure that the extremes were not exactly already on display. And have forever, been!

Moshkito

jamesg1213
I tried twice to write a reply Steve, but gave up.

This is a hard thing to get into perspective and I'm not sure that mine is right, or just an idea. But I grew up in a time, when the short wave was huge and you could hear some of those things being blasted in Europe, and then seeing the things being stopped in Portugal (censorship of way too many American movies even, with scenes taken out and voice overs/subtitles erased), and what things have changed since the 1950's ... you have to look at that history ... and you can see a pattern ... the same thing happened in England with the pirate ship history that changed the course of popular music forever. The BBC did its best to stop it for years, until they lost the battles and the war!
 
History shows something ... that we're not wanting to see, is how I look at it. It's showing a future that is a very harsh reality ... but it probably has always been like that, anyway! Even without the music. Look at the arts in the 1800's in Europe and you know that the wars in Europe, were influencing everything in the arts, and the extreme could even to be said to be the famous Marquis ... but then, with guillotines on the popular front like rock'n'roll, I'm not sure that the extremes were not exactly already on display. And have forever, been!

 
But what has any of that got to do with Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe?

 

jamesg1213

Moshkito

jamesg1213
I tried twice to write a reply Steve, but gave up.

This is a hard thing to get into perspective and I'm not sure that mine is right, or just an idea. But I grew up in a time, when the short wave was huge and you could hear some of those things being blasted in Europe, and then seeing the things being stopped in Portugal (censorship of way too many American movies even, with scenes taken out and voice overs/subtitles erased), and what things have changed since the 1950's ... you have to look at that history ... and you can see a pattern ... the same thing happened in England with the pirate ship history that changed the course of popular music forever. The BBC did its best to stop it for years, until they lost the battles and the war!
 
History shows something ... that we're not wanting to see, is how I look at it. It's showing a future that is a very harsh reality ... but it probably has always been like that, anyway! Even without the music. Look at the arts in the 1800's in Europe and you know that the wars in Europe, were influencing everything in the arts, and the extreme could even to be said to be the famous Marquis ... but then, with guillotines on the popular front like rock'n'roll, I'm not sure that the extremes were not exactly already on display. And have forever, been!

 
But what has any of that got to do with Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe?

James, it's just a code you have to decipher (using the Pedro to Reality translator) in order to get the message....you just have to pick out words that you think will relate and put it into a meaning you can understand....i.e.:
 
History shows a pattern of lost battles/wars of things being blasted in Europe that we're just not wanting to see. The extremes of war were already on display with the influence of guillotines showing a very harsh reality. History shows something......and have forever been!!  
 
HTH
 

Peyote is a helluva drug.

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
 
(Yes, this IS the right thread for that comment!)