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  • Blind A/B Test of SONAR PC CONSOLE vs MIXBUS 32C V3 - SEE RESULTS in OP
2017/04/28 01:13:59
bapu
Soundwise took a David Glenn multi-track recording and built a SONAR PC "Console" using tape and console on every track and bus. 
 
I did a mixdown of that project.
 
Then I turned off all FXs (tape and console) and then did a bus export. I imported those buses into Mixbus 32C V3 tracks. I routed those tracks to each of its own Mixbus which were then summed into the Mixbus Master bus. I left each track and bus at unity gain.
 
The only thing I did was level match the final mixdowns to insure that if you put them in non fx'd SONAR project you can use solo exclusive to A/B them and not be distracted by sudden/drastic level changes.
 
If you PM me I will give you links to the files. Anyone can request them by 5:00PM PST Wed 3 May 2017. I will give all requesters until Saturday 6 May 2017 Midnight PST to post their comments on (either) which one they liked better or which was SONAR and which was Mixbus. On Sunday morning 7 May 2017 when I wake up I will update this OP with the "answer" as to which was which.
 
Important to note both versions are devoid of any extra FXs such as compression, eq & reverb. IOW it's not a mix but a comparison of the two "console" versions attempting to be close to equal as possible.
 
And now for the answer:
 
B=Sonar
A=Mixbus
 
2017/04/28 14:19:41
BassDaddy
Thank you guys for doing that. This is very interesting. Really looking forward to the results.
2017/04/28 15:05:25
bapu
BassDaddy
Thank you guys for doing that. This is very interesting. Really looking forward to the results.


What??!!?? No PM request to participate?
2017/04/28 17:36:17
bapu
Lest ye who try to suss out which file is which by the name, remember this....

2017/04/30 14:34:06
bapu
I'm getting excited to hear from those that got the A/B files and which one they think is the Mixbus version or simply which one they liked better.
2017/04/30 16:25:52
smallstonefan
I looped 36 seconds in to 1:03 in.
 
There is a very real difference on my system.
 
The part at 36 seconds: at first it appeared that A was slightly lower in volume, but it sounds more like there is a muffled sound to it - like the old "blanket over a speaker". Interesting that the guitar in the right speaker sounds the same for both A and B. The snare seems to be a bit loader in B. Same with the vocals - like there is a bit of a bump in the mid-range in the center channel.
 
When I get to the harder part at about 44 seconds the difference is a bit more subtle, but it's still there.
 
The only way I can describe it is there appears to be a bit of a mid-range hump in the center channel on B, but the amount of bump seems to be volume dependent and therefore less noticeable when there is more signal.
 
PS: Thanks for doing these Ed! :)
2017/04/30 16:36:54
bapu
smallstonefan
I looped 36 seconds in to 1:03 in.
 
There is a very real difference on my system.
 
The part at 36 seconds: at first it appeared that A was slightly lower in volume, but it sounds more like there is a muffled sound to it - like the old "blanket over a speaker". Interesting that the guitar in the right speaker sounds the same for both A and B. The snare seems to be a bit loader in B. Same with the vocals - like there is a bit of a bump in the mid-range in the center channel.
 
When I get to the harder part at about 44 seconds the difference is a bit more subtle, but it's still there.
 
The only way I can describe it is there appears to be a bit of a mid-range hump in the center channel on B, but the amount of bump seems to be volume dependent and therefore less noticeable when there is more signal.
 
PS: Thanks for doing these Ed! :)


I can't quite glean from you response as to:
 
a) which you think is the Mixbus version
or
b) which did you prefer
 
 
WRT to prefer, it's not a vote on which is better, simply what you prefer.
2017/04/30 16:38:47
smallstonefan
why you so pushy?
2017/04/30 16:39:51
bapu
smallstonefan
why you so pushy?




2017/04/30 16:42:17
smallstonefan
:P
 
At this point I have no idea what's the mixbus version I just know they are different. As for preference, if I had to choose I would choose B, because the midrange pops more, but at the same time I feel that you lose the vocals behind that pop...
 
Since this seems more affected I would guess that mixbus is B.
 
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