bapu
My work is done here.

thanks Bapu

spoilers!!?!

Mike McCue's take on this thread (over in the Mixbus forum).
 
the result was pretty much a landslide in SONAR's favour.

mudgel
Excellent video Kenny.

Thanks Mike
 

Mosvalve
I guess there is really no way to compare one DAW to another as they all have thier own special thing. It looks like you can set the emulation in Sonar to most peoples liking as was demostrated in this test. This tells me you can do the same in all DAW's.

Yes , I agree with you there .
 

bapu
My work is done here.

Hey Man , Great Job bapu
You dug very deep into this topic and you have put a lot of hard work into this DAW comparison .
 
      
     
Now go wash up Your Work here is done .
 
Kenny

Jeff Evans
 
For those trying real hard to route signals from your DAW over to Mixbus and back again I say forget it and just get on with what you are doing with one DAW only! (Unless you really want to use all the other stuff Mixbus has to offer because the summing part of it seems to be neutral) I think there is enough other stuff in all our DAW's that will be able to match most of what Mixbus has to offer.
 
This test that I have just done has changed my opinion of Mixbus. It basically agrees with Soundwise now.

Hi Jeff,
 
I may come back later on and rap with you on some of the other things you have posted in this thread ..
Right now this "quote of yours " is something I can respond to quickly ...
I pretty much agree w you ,
As far as the routing and doing things in Mixbus being fed by another DAW , I can say that it is a real  PITA ...
I have had the ability to route Logic into Mixbus for years VIA Jack on my older Mac's .
Over there within that side of things ( OXS ) I happen to feel that it was easier to try out those routing options to be able to test the waters . Also in my case the need might have been greater to experiment around since there is no such thing as SONAR for Mac w the Pro Channel 
I came to the conclusion very early on that it is like 4 times the work to keep track of all the routing , all the settings in both DAW's including the  instruments , levels, plugs , as per track settings ,and everything else that goes along with that approach ..
Even then I have to be able to save projects with those settings to be able to re edit them ....
 
To put it mildly I gave up on that workflow for now over on the Mac side ...
My preference has reverted back over to the typical Harrison Mixbus work flow of importing my individual tracks and stems into Mixbus and working within Mixbus for that stage of my music ...
BTW , I have also re-imported quite a bit back into SONAR after hitting it with Mixbus  regardless of which OS it was born in 
 
Over on the Windows side , Yes, of course I'm still interested in checking out the routing between Mixbus and whichever DAWs I have that will support an approach along the lines of what was done in The Reaper video that I had posted in this thread ...I'm very happy that fella took the time to spell it out and create a vid
 
I feel that while I was feeding Reaper into Mixbus as per the videos suggestions , it wasn't a total waste of my time.
I did learn something new and it brought back something old ....
 
Once again I have found that running even a small mix of only a few tracks through both DAW's while working in real time using Mixbus as a plug is a whole lot to have to keep track of
I'm still gonna experiment a little on the side with that type of workflow .
The thing is I fall into the Camp of Mixbus users that like to bring in my stems and individual tracks into Mixbus from elsewhere  to use Mixbus for what it seems best suited for ...Mixing ...
 
As far as the A B test results go and peoples reactions to them ...I'm glad this thread exists...
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Rob[atSound-Rehab]
Just listened, but not yet read the other's comments above ... I got a clear preference. Will see if it turns out to be Mixbus or if I can save the money on upgrading to v4 (and invest in an hearing aid instead) ;-)

Well, it did not turn out to be mixbus ... another case of the emperor's new clothes?

I reckon for time being I invest the v4 upgrade fee in cold somewhat alcoholic beverages and invite all those over who also got it wrong (or right by liking Sonar better) ...

Anyway, I still think mixbus got it's place where many of us try to use it i.e. pull in tracks/stems and start over with a clean desk, either to remix or to master ... to me that's the prime application for a 2nd DAW - to approach the same tune in a different way and not twisting the same knobs in the same sequence as in DAW #1 ...

no point believing in voodoo magic

If the null tests that Kenny showed in that linked vid and what Jeff Evans purports to have achieved are accurate then really EVERYONE was wrong no matter what their choice was. 
 
Just saying.
 
forgot to add the obligatory j/k emoticon 

bapu
If the null tests that Kenny showed in that linked vid and what Jeff Evans purports to have achieved are accurate then really EVERYONE was wrong no matter what their choice was. 
 
Just saying.

 

 
WOW , perspective , perspective PERSPECTIVE ..Peoples !
 
What happened to the Music ?
 
When null test's START CHARTING High up in i Tunes and Billboard with some # 1's  for weeks at a time
And when Lady Ga Ga ,  Katie Perry and Beyonce start shaking their Sexy Boom Booms to null tests in all their #1 Null Test dance videos ...
Only then I will give 2 $hits about null tests 
 
I still Wub Mixbus
 
Kenny
 
 

I read MQs post over in the MB forum.
Although it generated some mild comments(8 posts 259 views), it seems people there are more concerned about control surfaces(57 posts, 1954 views)
 
as someone said above,  Perspective...

I would say perception, perception, PERCEPTION!
If you perceive a difference, and that difference inspires you; then you need it.
Ask any guitarist, its all about the "tone".
And "tone" is something we (guitarists) can never quite describe.
And, as often as not, its a moving target.
My thanks go out to Ed because I no longer am "jonesing" for MixBus.
But for those who use it, are inspired by it, and achieve results with it; I can see where its essential!
Yours in the quest...
T