cecelius2
Just found a way to print the actual chord notes on the piano roll in the midi track when in chord mode and using chord presets.  

Thanks, I was rather hoping others would join in and post their tips and findings.

We're predominantly leechers here, I'm afraid, but we love what you're doing, Glyn. Thank you!

Wow, this is fascinating stuff, I hope to get an S61 someday.k

Thanks for the info Glyn (and everyone else!). My S25 just arrived today and this thread has been really great. Would have sprung for the larger keyboard had the $$ allowed but since I have a full keyboard placed directly below it I'll be able to use the S25 features and reach down to the 88 for playing wider parts. Looks like it'll be a late night digging in! 

Glyn,
Thanks for all the fantastic information you've provided, you've been very generous with your time and knowledge.
Have you found any way to use the KK rotary controllers outside of the Komplete Kontrol VST software (with Z3ta for instance)?
I was rather hoping that AZ Controller from AZSlow might do the trick but it doesn't seem to detect any midi signals from the rotaries, so you can't make any mapping.

SGodfrey
Have you found any way to use the KK rotary controllers outside of the Komplete Kontrol VST software (with Z3ta for instance)?

In theory you should just be able to use MIDI learn as you would with any other MIDI controller. Remember to enable write automation on the VSTi. You should not need to go via the AZ controller.

If I get a chance I will try this out tomorrow.

Z3ta is one synth I have yet to make a Komplete Kontrol template for. There are so many parameters organising the mapping is daunting.

Glyn Barnes

SGodfrey
Have you found any way to use the KK rotary controllers outside of the Komplete Kontrol VST software (with Z3ta for instance)?

In theory you should just be able to use MIDI learn as you would with any other MIDI controller. Remember to enable write automation on the VSTi. You should not need to go via the AZ controller.

If I get a chance I will try this out tomorrow.

Z3ta is one synth I have yet to make a Komplete Kontrol template for. There are so many parameters organising the mapping is daunting.

Hi Glyn
Thanks for getting back to me.  I just wanted to clarify whether you are always using the Komplete Kontrol vst software whenever you use the keyboard?
For instance, are you able to load up an instance of Massive direct into Sonar (without the KK VST) and use the rotaries?
 

SGodfrey

Glyn Barnes

SGodfrey
Have you found any way to use the KK rotary controllers outside of the Komplete Kontrol VST software (with Z3ta for instance)?

In theory you should just be able to use MIDI learn as you would with any other MIDI controller. Remember to enable write automation on the VSTi. You should not need to go via the AZ controller.

If I get a chance I will try this out tomorrow.

Z3ta is one synth I have yet to make a Komplete Kontrol template for. There are so many parameters organising the mapping is daunting.

Hi Glyn
Thanks for getting back to me.  I just wanted to clarify whether you are always using the Komplete Kontrol vst software whenever you use the keyboard?
For instance, are you able to load up an instance of Massive direct into Sonar (without the KK VST) and use the rotaries?
 

I just checked Z3ta+ and Massive in in both cases I was able to use MIDI learn to map and control a knob to a parameter. You just right click on the knob you want to control, then turn the relevant knob to link them just as you would with most keyboard controlers.
You do not get the automatic mapping of parameters and the parameter lables you would see if you are using the synth in the Komplet Kontrol software. Certainly for any NKS complient synth, like Massive I would recommend using it in the KK plugin as it saves manual mapping. Also making templates for you non NKS synths can be a big time saver as they load in the KK plugin with the parameters ready assigned, no need to use MIDI learn on each instance.

Ac ouple more things about using the NI keyboards without the KK Software. In Komplete Kontrol you havd 128 possible encoder assignments, in straight MIDI mode this reduces to 16, however if you are having to assign by MIDI learn 16 is probably enough!
 
In the controler editor software you can assign MIDI cc to the 16 available encoders. By default they are assigned 14 through to 29 but you can make it what you want and save it as a configuration. You can also set up key zones for each configuration that will be lit in different colours on the keyboard. There seems to be a limitation on the number of zones but for most purposes it is plenty. The only time I ran out was trying to make a setup for Superior Drummer where all snares were one colour, all kicks an other etc. etc. This is because so many zones are needed because kit pieces are not always adjacent. for example the Hi-Hats fall between the toms.
 
NI drum products are set up this colourcoding via Komplet Kontrol and it a major advantage IMHO.
 
 

I found out something new today. (Its probably in the manual somewhere.)
 
If you are using the keyboard in normal MIDI mode the patch scroll buttons will take you through any keyboard templates you have set up in the controler editor. I had created several for EastWest products that rely heavily on keyswitches but are not NKS compliant so the light guide displays the keyswitch zones on the keyboard. Very useful!