2016/02/03 15:27:35
jamesg1213
Craig, I like to find music you haven't got in your collection, just to annoy you..
2016/02/03 15:37:21
Beagle
craigb
I try to both categorize all of the songs I have, but not get caught up in the whole naming game.  My goal is to simply group music by songs that sound good together.  Then, if I really wanted to completely mix styles, it would be my choice not the default.  I tend to listen to styles/genres/subgenres/etc. based on whatever mood I happen to be in and I have a LOT of different things to choose from!  In many cases, without shuffle-playing a subsection of my music, I have found that I would have completely missed out on stuff that's really good but obscure.  Quite often I'll have to look to see what's playing when I hear something I'm not familiar with that sounds good.
 
So, when I refer to something as "Prog," it typically means music that is labelled as such in general by most people. I don't get into the debates and arguments about whether a certain artist is "Progressive" or not (heck, Beethoven could be argued to have been progressive at his time!).
 
Most people with smaller song collections also tend to stick with a relatively small area of music that they prefer.  I have at least 250,000 songs that are all over the place: Classical, New Wave, New Age, Progressive, Rock (in many, many forms), Metal (also in many forms), Electonic (Trance, Techno, Ambient, House, etc., etc., etc.), Psychedelic, Punk, Ska, Reggae, Latin, Celtic, Dance, Pop, Soul, Funk, Folk, World, R&B, Industrial and lots of kinds of Jazz.  Heck, I even have too much inherited music like Easy Listening and Big Band.  My hard drive with the media player is currently down so I can't check these, but I'm sure I've even missed one or two.
 
Some of those subgenres I'm rarely in the mood for, others I can listen to every day.  I really don't want them all mixed together!


Pedro?  did you steal Craig's (IFHRN) password????


2016/02/03 15:46:10
craigb
Beagle
craigb
I try to both categorize all of the songs I have, but not get caught up in the whole naming game.  My goal is to simply group music by songs that sound good together.  Then, if I really wanted to completely mix styles, it would be my choice not the default.  I tend to listen to styles/genres/subgenres/etc. based on whatever mood I happen to be in and I have a LOT of different things to choose from!  In many cases, without shuffle-playing a subsection of my music, I have found that I would have completely missed out on stuff that's really good but obscure.  Quite often I'll have to look to see what's playing when I hear something I'm not familiar with that sounds good.
 
So, when I refer to something as "Prog," it typically means music that is labelled as such in general by most people. I don't get into the debates and arguments about whether a certain artist is "Progressive" or not (heck, Beethoven could be argued to have been progressive at his time!).
 
Most people with smaller song collections also tend to stick with a relatively small area of music that they prefer.  I have at least 250,000 songs that are all over the place: Classical, New Wave, New Age, Progressive, Rock (in many, many forms), Metal (also in many forms), Electonic (Trance, Techno, Ambient, House, etc., etc., etc.), Psychedelic, Punk, Ska, Reggae, Latin, Celtic, Dance, Pop, Soul, Funk, Folk, World, R&B, Industrial and lots of kinds of Jazz.  Heck, I even have too much inherited music like Easy Listening and Big Band.  My hard drive with the media player is currently down so I can't check these, but I'm sure I've even missed one or two.
 
Some of those subgenres I'm rarely in the mood for, others I can listen to every day.  I really don't want them all mixed together!


Pedro?  did you steal Craig's (IFHRN) password????






*Pfft...*  You didn't see any "Hi," starting that did you? 
2016/02/03 15:47:10
craigb
And what the heck is "IFHRN" anyway? 
 
2016/02/03 15:48:56
Beagle
craigb
And what the heck is "IFHRN" anyway? 
 


Ifits frickin His Real Name.
 
Duh.
2016/02/03 15:50:24
craigb
Beagle
craigb
And what the heck is "IFHRN" anyway? 
 


Ifits frickin His Real Name.
 
Duh.




Beagle!  I'm shocked!  Do you kiss your Mom with that dirty mouth?
 

2016/02/04 20:32:40
tlw
Glyn Barnes
tlw
Hawkwind prog? I wouldn't have said so myself. Psychedelia yes, space-rock definitely, but "prog" no. Nor Peter Gabriel's post-Genesis work.

Prog, as a genre, or progressive music??
I can't recall "prog" as a genre until quite recently, in the 70's progressive music refered to almost anything experimental, different (i.e. progressive) It could be argured that much of the stuff released now in the "prog" genre is in fact regressive.
 
Of course not content to categorise things as just “Prog” someone with far too much time on their hands has come up with innumerable sub-genres of which this list is a small part.
 
I think, should you wish to, you could catagorise Gabriel's post Genesis work as "crossover prog" 
 
I read one review saying that Luna Rossa were not “Prog” but it was genre deifying, drawing on elements of jazz, folk, rock and classical. To me that is progressive.
 


Or maybe it's "fusion"....

Nowadays every time a member quits a band and starts a very similar new one someone invents a new genre name for the result. The proliferation of genre names got past ridiculous a decade ago.

Me, I generally go by a simple two-category system for what I listen to. I like it or I don't like it, and from time to time I find I now like something I once didn't.
2016/02/05 02:12:47
craigb
Person A - "I think it's Fizzy!"
Person B - "I don't know, it sounds more like Proto-Pickle to me."
Person C - "Are you sure it's not Post-Tilly?"
Person D - "Could be, but then it could also be Progressive Coffee Buzz too!"
2016/02/05 09:34:10
Moshkito
tlw
Glyn Barnes
 
I read one review saying that Luna Rossa were not “Prog” but it was genre deifying, drawing on elements of jazz, folk, rock and classical. To me that is progressive.
 


Or maybe it's "fusion"....

Nowadays every time a member quits a band and starts a very similar new one someone invents a new genre name for the result. The proliferation of genre names got past ridiculous a decade ago.
...



This is the hard part of the "progressive" descriptions ... it's strictly based on 3 bands, and that's that. So when I say that Incredible String Band is "progressive folk", folks look at me with the eyes crossed. Likewise, when I say that Guru Guru fits, they don't like it, because the band does not use keyboards ...
 
The description is wrong, and should not be about a "sound". Should be about the musical design and ideas, and the progressive design is not going to get acceptance in the music world properly until it grows up and cleans up its description, and definition, because right now, it is a bad one designed by uneducated children that never heard music, and think that 4 players is "music" and an "orchestra" is not.
 
Aside from that, of the list above of his shows the one I would love to see is Neil Innes ... one of the most creative forces in that list of things ... doing music for Bonzo Dog Band, Monty Python, Grimms, and his own ... on top of being the chairman of the "How Sweet to be an Idiot" club ... of which, Rick Wakeman is a emeritus member, even if he was stuck up and did not wear his duck cap on that interview!
2016/02/05 10:00:14
jamesg1213
Moshkito
 
Musical talent is questionable, when all he is doing is playing classical scales on different instruments at the same time, and there is very little "progressive" in his own touch and design ... turn off the electricity and watch his talent go down the drain ... just classical mumbo jumbo.
 
 




 
Pedro, you really have to be kidding. The man is a consummate, highly skilled musician. He also doesn't need electricity to play piano.
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