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2017/04/09 12:53:32
mudgel
Then there's Jammer. Soundtrek, the company that makes and sells it seems to be gone in some sense but all the software, program and MIDI packs are all still available in a very 1990's looking website which has been under reconstruction for about 10 years or so.

Here http://www.soundtrek.com/index.maint3.html

I've been using it for years to help writing a bass line or an harmony, even the occasional lead line. It's very flexible.
2017/04/09 12:56:31
mudgel
BobF
Fleer
And let's not forget Toontrack EZKeys' Circle of Fifths.




One of these days I guess I need to try out EZKeys ... I really wish TT would do an EZBass 


You can always develop the left hand of the EZKeys piano line for bass and split the midi data off and send to a bass patch. Doesn't work too bad.
2017/04/09 15:04:11
abacab
Soundwise
BobF
I really wish TT would do an EZBass 

While we are waiting for this tool from TT, Ample Sound has announced Bass riffer, built right into their top-notch bass instruments.




Yup, I grabbed the Ample Metal Ray5 Bass last week.  Great sampled bass, and the riffer is very cool.  The plugin has MIDI out so the riffer can also drive any other plugin in the DAW.  So those bass riffs can be applied to any instrument via MIDI in without having to export anything! 
 
See Larry's original post here: Ample Sound releases Bass Riffer for Virtual Bass Instruments (v2.5 updates)
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3568751
2017/04/09 15:36:54
kennywtelejazz
abacab
kennywtelejazz


 It ain't cheating any more than nicking all of Bach's playing and putting it in a plug is ....is It?




Funny that you brought up Bach, besides the fact that dude, Steve Duda, used him in Cthulhu. 
 
It reminded me of my community college library back in the 70's, where they had a music room where you could listen to albums and check them out, etc.  They even had record players with stereo headphones, and bean bag chairs.  Yup, I got a lot of studying done there, right! 
 
I discovered this crazy new record called "Switched on Bach", by Walter Carlos, performed on the Moog synthesizer.
 
I listened to it over and over.  That rocked my world!  I think I was hooked on synthesizers at that moment, although it was another 10 years before I could afford one of my own (not a Moog, but it was still fun).
 
Bach rocked, for sure!!! 




Yes , I got into Bach early early on at first with his traditional music . Then later on with the record you mentioned .
Then in the late 70's I studied with a top NYC studio guitar player named Barry Galbraith ..Barry had a book out where he had taken Bach's 2 part Inventions and arranged them as duets for 2 guitars ...in some cases the songs keys were altered so they were playable true to form ...
The later on I joined Barry's Guitar quartet ...in addition to playing complex Jazz arrangements we did a lot of classical music ...
We did quite a number of Bach's Fugues arranged for 4 guitars and a bass ..We also did a lot of Vivaldi arranged that way ...I wish I had the reading chops I had back then ...
Nowadays I still play some of Bach's solo violin works on the guitar ....more as a hobbyist / hacker  
His music is so deep and it has a calming effect on me ...
 
so calming I decided not to go snail mail your off the hook kid
 
Fleer
He still does. No one ever came close.

 
true that
 
Kenny
 
 
2017/04/09 16:31:20
kitekrazy1
This stuff is incorporated in FL Studio.  Do like Chlutu. It's on my list. To bad they never have sales.
2017/04/09 21:53:56
abacab
ZincTrumpet
 
What about Air Ignite?  -> http://www.airmusictech.com/product/ignite#.WOiyC_mLSUk 
Sort of a scratchpad for messing around with ideas before moving them to a DAW for further work.




I picked Ignite up for cheap last year on sale.  It's a keeper.  There is a lot to like about this one, but with a few head scratchers tossed in with the implementation.  I hope they continue to develop this and it evolves with the potential that it has.  But overall, it is very original and innovative with it's scratchpad approach.  It's designed to have a few DAW features, but not require any engineering knowledge.  Aimed at musicians that want a non-technical way to write and record their music.  A good way to play a few quick ideas in and then export for DAW.
 
Ignite consists mainly of an Arranger and Piano Roll views.  No project timeline or tracks.  Each clip, or group of clips have it's own timeline.
 
I think all DAWs should have this layout as an optional view.  Keep it simple for inspiration.  For example, you should be able to press a menu button, and get a simple trackless screenset or workspace that lets you freely record audio or MIDI phrases (clips) anywhere you want and to rearrange them into multi-clips and song clips by dragging them around until you like the result.  With Ignite, you can do this.
 
The head scratchers occur if you are used to a full blow DAW, and want to be able to manipulate certain things in Ignite, and discover they deliberately left some feature out to keep things simple.  It is what it is.  Write your tune, and then move onto your real DAW!
 
You can import wave files, and record from two audio inputs.   You can export wave and MIDI to your DAW. 
 
You cannot import MIDI files or patterns, or use VST instruments, but there are 275 MIDI instrument sounds included, as well as some effects.  The sounds are of high quality, most likely borrowed from other AIR instruments, and sound real enough to work with.  Much better than GM sound fonts, LOL!
 
The Play tab shows your onscreen keyboard controller, and has the optional Player Mode switch, which lets you select chord, phrase, or arp mode.  If you select the "Move to key signature" option, the key signature you set in the control bar determines the chords or scale used.  The downside here is that you are limited to major or minor only, and there are a limited number of patterns to work with.  But you can just use normal mode and play in what you want.
 
Once you have recorded your clips, there is no way to change chords or keys in them, except for manually editing them in the piano roll.  So not so great for experimenting with chord changes.  As I said at the beginning of this thread, I am still on a search for the ideal tool to experiment with scales and chords with.
 
Hopefully some of these shortcomings will be addressed with a feature update at some point, but I have noted that there are some feature requests over at the AIR community that have been floating around for a few years.  I hope that AIR plans to continue developing this, because this is a unique tool.
2017/04/11 02:40:18
tparker24
Interesting article about common chord patterns:

I analyzed the chords of 1300 popular songs for patterns. This is what I found.
 
(Edit: oops, corrected the link)
2017/04/11 07:51:36
kennywtelejazz
To Zink Trumpet & abacab ,
 
Last night I did what I was talking about a few posts ago ...
I opened up Waveform , took one of the Waveform auto generated chord progressions and played around with it for a little while ...Also ,messed around with the octaves and tried a number of different synths .
Then I opened up BIAB  while Waveform was still opened ...picked a Celtic Tune because I loved the melody .
I slid the melody to the place where you can use the BIAB DAW plugin option , I put BIAB into that mode and slid the melody over as a midi to Waveform on the same track I had the auto generated stuff on
Man it worked great and all was good in my world
Also I haven't seen this mentioned yet ..Waveform has an option where it has what appears to be hundreds of groove options that can be applied to midi
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
2017/04/11 07:59:41
kennywtelejazz
Oh I forgot to mention in my last post that even though I had used 2 different keys in source material , Waveform has a real nice midi transpose function 
I was able to set each midi source clip for key , octaves and even chord type with a level of simplicity and versatility that was unparalleled
 
Kenny 
 
PS had I gone back and tried to augment my last post with this info it would have gone POOF ..it happens almost every time I reedit a post shortly after posting one ...
2017/04/11 09:18:23
synkrotron
tparker24
Interesting article about common chord patterns:

I analyzed the chords of 1300 popular songs for patterns. This is what I found.




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