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  • MIDI Scale/Chord Composition Assistance Software (p.9)
2017/04/16 10:14:02
kennywtelejazz
A couple of things with chords ...when you hit shift and left click your mouse on the arrow where it would change the octave what will happen is Waveform will invert the chord ...
With a triad when you do that 3 times you get the typical chord inversions every body knows ...
this is very useful IMHO ...
With a 7 th chord you will get 4 inversions before it jumps up to the next octave ...
 
I'm sure I could input a typical guitar chord after inputting a triad first and then by adding the extra notes ..
I haven't tried that yet only because I'm messing around with some other stuff ...
 
On a chord track with the arpeggio engaged you can move voices around at will ...
ex...changing the bass note of the chord or any other voice for that matter ...
What will happen is this will also effect the secondary part of the clip ....
I say secondary part of the clip because over here I have been dragging in 8 or 9 bars of a blank midi and superimposing my chord progressions that seem to be 3 or 4 chords at a time ...my clips so far are short and the second half is a repeat ...
 
I do like this end of things a lot in the couple of days I have been playing around with The Waveform pattern Generator I have been able to come up with some nice finger picking stuff that would work great on guitar parts
for non guitar players .
On the opposite side of the coin, 
Since I'm a non keyboard player I have been able to come up with some rather nice arpeggio keyboard parts that I would have not been able to have done with my midi guitar ...
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny
 
 
2017/04/16 12:47:34
Fleer
Thanks Kenny!
2017/04/16 14:39:26
kitekrazy1
I'm so use to creating my own but not creating clips but using notepad to label progressions.  Once again a feature like this has been in FL Studio for quite some time.  I do like Waveform.  I have Liquid Notes, demoing Cthuwhatever and sometimes is takes a rocket science to get these to work.  These often suffer from poor documentation when it comes to setup. 
2017/04/16 17:03:16
abacab
kitekrazy1
I'm so use to creating my own but not creating clips but using notepad to label progressions.  Once again a feature like this has been in FL Studio for quite some time.  I do like Waveform.  I have Liquid Notes, demoing Cthuwhatever and sometimes is takes a rocket science to get these to work.  These often suffer from poor documentation when it comes to setup. 




The best thing about Waveform is that these MIDI tools are baked right into the program, and do not require any plugins to operate them.  Plugins such as Cthulhu affect only one track, rather than the entire project. 
 
Some apps that can perform re-harmonization functions are forced to work as separate standalone apps in order to manipulate the harmonic structure simultaneously for all of the tracks, as is the case with Liquid Notes.  I have that one too, but I think that would come in handy further down the road, when you have your song pretty well developed, and just want to tinker with the harmonic color of the whole thing in one shot, rather than track by track.
 
With Waveform you don't need to use the Pattern Generator if you want to create your own patterns. You can simply add a root note, then enter "ctrl +3" or "ctrl + 7" for a Major triad or 7th, or else hit the Chord menu and add from many other chord types from the menu.  Then you can select and copy the chord notes and paste (ctrl+v) the chord as many times as you need.  Select and adjust the chord notes as a group, moving the root note of each chord as desired to create your progression.  Invert up or down as you wish with "shift + T" or "ctrl +shift + T".  The optional Marker track is useful for marking your chord changes on the timeline.
 
The Create Chord options are:

 
But I really find the Pattern Generator is very inspiring for trying out new ideas.
 
I did try the FL Studio 12 demo, but Waveform MIDI blows it away, in my opinion.  Although, I do like the PRV in FL Studio, it is very good!  But the rest of the GUI just felt awkward to work with.
 
Bottom line, I'll probably never use Waveform as a DAW to record or mix audio with.  My decision was based entirely on the MIDI tools.  But It is nice to know that it has audio tools if needed.  It also does include a Melodyne Essentials 4 license with ARA integration.
2017/04/16 17:13:30
kitekrazy1
Like Waveform so far.  I never did gel to Tracktion and had licenses since T2.  I went through and deleted those demo plugins and finally found Collective. 
 
Best thing to do is collect your own midi files. You can audition them in Sonar and see which synth works best with them.
2017/04/16 17:26:13
abacab
kitekrazy1
 
Best thing to do is collect your own midi files. You can audition them in Sonar and see which synth works best with them.




Yup, been there, done that.  Now with Waveform in the workflow, the plan is to build the MIDI files there, using any of my synth plugins.  Then export the MIDI tracks and finish them in Sonar, and perhaps replace some sounds and add FX to get what I want.  But the good thing is that I can use the same instruments and presets in both programs, to avoid any potential messy MIDI details that could arise when switching instruments.  But happy accidents can happen! 
2017/04/16 18:32:57
Fleer
Sounds like a plan 
2017/04/24 13:10:20
ZincTrumpet
Nino Vargas
Best for ipad http://laurentcolson.com/chordpolypad.html
 



Just catching up on a few things and this looks like a great find, thanks!
 
Now to try the Waveform demo ... 
 
2017/04/24 13:29:12
scook
abacab
 You can simply add a root note, then enter "ctrl +3" or "ctrl + 7" for a Major triad or 7th

FWIW, there are CAL scripts that may be bound to keystrokes to perform the same tasks in SONAR. It is pretty easy to use the existing chord scripts to create your own. I went as far as a small autohotkey menu to use instead of keybinding. Certainly not as nice as a fully integrated tool though.
2017/04/24 15:11:50
ZincTrumpet
Thanks scook.
 
By the way, ChordMaps2 (iPad app) has been on sale and the sale has been extended for a day (5.99 instead of 9.99).
Get it on the App store or see more here ...
http://mugglinworks.com/ChordMaps2/ 
 
 
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