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2016/06/10 13:39:32
SoundRegion
Guitarhacker
Don't be afraid to keep a copy of this song as it is now...BUT, feel free to add some verb and play with the EQ and repost it in this thread for more detailed feedback.

Thanks for feedback .
 
So let it be done. I have remixed this one a little wetter and a slightly different guitar sound:
 
https://soundcloud.com/so...-to-your-heart-new-mix
2016/06/10 14:27:35
bjornpdx
I like the 2nd version better which just sounds fuller to me. Nice melody and lyrics.

The vocal seems too clipped or something and maybe that's a language thing, but it could be improved if the words blended together better. Sometimes I have the melody track running on the headphones while recording (so I can hear if I'm on pitch) but that usually makes me sing in a stilted word-by-word way. It's better to listen to the backing tracks IMO for a smoother sound.
2016/06/10 14:36:27
SoundRegion
bjornpdx
I like the 2nd version better which just sounds fuller to me. Nice melody and lyrics.

The vocal seems too clipped or something and maybe that's a language thing, but it could be improved if the words blended together better. Sometimes I have the melody track running on the headphones while recording (so I can hear if I'm on pitch) but that usually makes me sing in a stilted word-by-word way. It's better to listen to the backing tracks IMO for a smoother sound.


Thanks. I think I know what you mean about the vocals. I'm probably too concerned with trying to hit the right key which might make it sound forced. I should probably redo the vocals after I practice more in the car, as I found it really helps.


2016/06/11 19:20:36
mgh
your voice is fine. dependant on which version of sonar you're using, Melodyne or V-Vocal may be able to fix and little pitch issues, so be more confident singing - really attack that vocal.
the rhythm guitars sound a bit apologetic at the moment, as do the drums
but generally it's a nice tune, and the balance in the mix is good- you have loads of positives to work on.
2016/06/12 12:58:22
SoundRegion
mgh
your voice is fine. dependant on which version of sonar you're using, Melodyne or V-Vocal may be able to fix and little pitch issues, so be more confident singing - really attack that vocal.
the rhythm guitars sound a bit apologetic at the moment, as do the drums
but generally it's a nice tune, and the balance in the mix is good- you have loads of positives to work on.




Thanks a lot for your input, MGH. I just purchased Komplete 10, so I'll probably be able to find better instruments for it.
2016/06/13 10:25:55
emeraldsoul
Very nice! Especially for a first effort. It has a lot of sincerity.
 
A technical question - did you ressurrect this using something from a cassette tape,  digitized into Sonar? I hear plenty of that old tape wow/hiss/flutter in the background. It would be job #1 to eliminate that, or re-do whatever track is bringing that stuff to the party.
 
I'd agree, reverb on vocals. Put some on that you think sounds great, then dial that back to half as much. That should do the trick!  :)  That's my strategy, anyway.
 
happy polishing! looking forward to hearing more of your stuff.
 
cheers,
-Tom
 
 
2016/06/13 15:15:19
SoundRegion
emeraldsoul
Very nice! Especially for a first effort. It has a lot of sincerity.
 
A technical question - did you ressurrect this using something from a cassette tape,  digitized into Sonar? I hear plenty of that old tape wow/hiss/flutter in the background. It would be job #1 to eliminate that, or re-do whatever track is bringing that stuff to the party.
 
I'd agree, reverb on vocals. Put some on that you think sounds great, then dial that back to half as much. That should do the trick!  :)  That's my strategy, anyway.
 
happy polishing! looking forward to hearing more of your stuff.
 
cheers,
-Tom
 
 


Thanks, EmeraldSoul
 
Did you hear the new or the old mix ? I put the new mix in the original post now. It's not so dry.
I think the noice might be from the guitar, but it shouldn't be on the whole mix.
 
 
2016/06/13 21:24:51
Serious_Noize!
I'm no mix master that's for sure. I like your song. But I wanted to say that I really like what you done with the vocals. It sounds like you removed some of the bass or lower mid range parts on the vocals leaving it mixing better with the rest of the tune. Sorry that's just what I am hearing and like I said I'm no mix master, I just work with my ears. 
 
This is a much better mix, my only suggestion would be to add some reverb to you vocal mix. And use an EQ to make things a little brighter and crisp on you piano. Maybe a little bit more bottom end on the drums with the EQ giving it a bit more punch. Just a few crazy suggestions. I think a lot of the mixes that sound the best are using EQ moreso than compression. In the old days, compression made cassette tapes able to produce more sound, now in the digital age, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think it's needed as much. JMO........... 
 
Like I said I am no Mix Master. Just a few of my thoughts. And don't take my advice as ADVICE, take it as possibilities and something you might try. Remember there are no rules to anything. 
 
I like this tune, and your vocals sound good also. It just sounds like your mix lacks a little bit of crisp EQ higher settings on it in my opinion. 
 
Take my opinions as a grain of salt and like I said I am no mixmaster, I can only tell you what I hear. 
 
Enjoyed hearing this, I hope this helps. Keep on Keepin' on!!!!!
 
 
2016/06/15 14:44:44
SoundRegion
Serious_Noize!
I'm no mix master that's for sure. I like your song. But I wanted to say that I really like what you done with the vocals. It sounds like you removed some of the bass or lower mid range parts on the vocals leaving it mixing better with the rest of the tune. Sorry that's just what I am hearing and like I said I'm no mix master, I just work with my ears. 
 
This is a much better mix, my only suggestion would be to add some reverb to you vocal mix. And use an EQ to make things a little brighter and crisp on you piano. Maybe a little bit more bottom end on the drums with the EQ giving it a bit more punch. Just a few crazy suggestions. I think a lot of the mixes that sound the best are using EQ moreso than compression. In the old days, compression made cassette tapes able to produce more sound, now in the digital age, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think it's needed as much. JMO........... 
 
Like I said I am no Mix Master. Just a few of my thoughts. And don't take my advice as ADVICE, take it as possibilities and something you might try. Remember there are no rules to anything. 
 
I like this tune, and your vocals sound good also. It just sounds like your mix lacks a little bit of crisp EQ higher settings on it in my opinion. 
 
Take my opinions as a grain of salt and like I said I am no mixmaster, I can only tell you what I hear. 
 
Enjoyed hearing this, I hope this helps. Keep on Keepin' on!!!!!
 
 


Thanks Serious_Noize
Mixmaster or not. Your comments are valid and appreciated. Glad to hear my vocal doesn't suck as much as I thought.
 
 
2016/07/09 09:29:29
SoundRegion
New mix. I redid my vocals as I have upgraded to Sonar Pro, but it turned out Melodyne didn't have that much to complain about. Practicing in the car must have worked. Yet it's good to have it as a check tool. I put some strings in the intro as well and a Grandeur piano.
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