2017/04/15 21:54:57
JohnKenn
So do we do reincarnate or do we not reincarnate.
 
Yes we do.
 
Intellect arguments are meaningless for this reason...  Recognition or recollection of past lives is hidden for both technological and utility reasons. Us 2017 sophisticated humanoids are somewhat ahead of a carrot on the evolutionary scale, but way short of the mark to hang out on the same cognitive plane with the Christs or Shivas where the past is as recent as the present. Interface with the engrams of our past is deeper than surface intellect, thus intellectual debate has no value in the face of what is.
 
Blast from the past is that even with our primate status, the genes, the chemicals, the brain receptors are there to unearth what we did before we were born as we know ourselves. Every humanoid has this capacity to close the debate with a little effort.
 
John
 
2017/04/15 22:33:17
savageopera
And billions of years ago in a far off galaxy we were blown out of volcanos then captured by evil aliens who transported us to earth in spaceships that looked like 50's airliners so we could read pulp fiction pseudo science religious books and join millions of other victims to hold two cans with wires plugged in to a machine that audits our karma so the technician can write down our deepest secrets and charge us a fortune to teach us how to purify our spirit and clear us of all of our past life transgressions like the movie stars do so a red headed self proclaimed prophet and savior can sail around the world in his great ship and save the planet .................
2017/04/15 22:38:22
JohnKenn
Cool...
And thanks. Was not aware of these revelations before I done spoke...
2017/04/15 22:44:59
synkrotron
Very interesting
2017/04/16 00:21:01
savageopera
JohnKenn
Cool...
And thanks. Was not aware of these revelations before I done spoke...
Read "Messiah or Madman" by Hubbard's son, an absolutely amazing account of the life of L. Ron Hubbard.
2017/04/16 00:22:59
bapu
savageopera
JohnKenn
Cool...
And thanks. Was not aware of these revelations before I done spoke...
Read "Messiah or Madman" by Hubbard's son, an absolutely amazing account of the life of a deceptive genius. You will not be disappointed. The scope of his scam is epic......Ron

I think a new even greater scam has been perpetuated. 'nuffsed.
2017/04/16 00:48:27
savageopera
Didn't mean to obloviate guys just a book I read about reincarnation etc. No offense meant to anybody's belief system. Plenty of scammers out there in all philosophies........
2017/04/16 01:09:25
Moshkito
Hi,
 
I'm not sure it matters, either way, what we think or say about the matter!
 
Weird how we all think we're bigger than the universe and can overcome it!
2017/04/16 01:15:27
savageopera
Yep, I just want to attain the final Salami, or if my karma's not sufficient, the final Bologna.
2017/04/16 01:30:32
JohnKenn
Hey Guys,
 
Got to come out of the closet again. Life for me has been completely abnormal, but in a good way (so far).
 
Back in the early 70’s was part of a lab analysis team in the radical underground of West Virginia state university. Study was what was happening in the brains of meditation dudes. Electrical connections, Fourier analysis and that kind of stuff. This was way ahead of the time for then, and proud to have been on the cutting edge. Still the cutting edge.
 
Was blown away by what presented as the next step in our evolution, looking thru and analyzing reams of EEG brainwave things. End point was quickly apparent. Progress wasted by each of us, because the potential was there, but no one took advantage. Proximal cause of the loss was that we had no idea how to harness the gift. Was at once a ray of hope, but a wakeup call to get it together because the biological clock was ticking toward individual annihilation for each of us. And it still is...
 
Chased these renegades around the planet after constant rejection to learn the process. 22 year old clueless brain dead cannibal meat eater beyond redemption was the reason for me not wasting my time in a goal that I did not have any capacity to achieve. Best for me to just eat, sleep, excrete, die in the natural process of mortality and quit inflicting harm on the universe. Thanks for the interest, but success in life for me was already impossible.
 
Finally got to get trained after years of effort. Guess I passed the test.
 
Point of all this crap is that in the valid science of yoga, the real science of introspection, you gots to come to terms with where you were and what you done in the past. Passing artifact. Lets you know you are making progress, but not the end point goal.
 
Was one of the only white boys who got into a valid path to study the real science. When you can grasp the pebble out of the Master’s hand, you go forth to spread the Gospel. Stuff like that. Total and traumatic break in the transition with everything I was taught to be sacred.
 
We were screwed by ignorance. Not by something conspiracy thing, but by a set of observations and principles too pure to get regulated yet.
 
Ironical point that after earning my swami guru turban and orange robes, was sent back to India to teach the bloody heathens their own introspective science. Everyone there is aware of the philosophy, but nobody knows first hand by virtue of personal subjectivity. Reincarnation part of the philosophy, but no one has any experience in the ancient memory or how to retrieve it.
 
What I would think would be cool is if I could share some perspectives on the rebirth process. Nothing Trump will substantiate. Robert Goulet, the Tidy Bowl man, Pope whoever, even the highest bastion of our knowledge, Brittany Spears will authoritatively knock this down as unamerican.
 
Can share my perspectives on this, but even if the Coffee House, there are limits.
 
More than honored to being told to eat ***t and die. In which case will crawl back into whatever hole I crawled out of. Bigger and pressing issues in our daily life to contend with than where any of us will end up two hundred years from now.
 
Love to all of you,
John
 
this for entertainment and good laughs purpose only. I someone gets a good laugh, I'm happy. If I am targeted for heresy, happier. If a catalyst for thought or hard core exploration, even happier..l
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