Starise

dcumpian

Starise
It has been said the software sounds good. I think it has a different sound. I'm not into the inner workings, a different summing mixer maybe? 

Fixed it for ya...(just kidding Tim, lol...)
 
Dan
 

Summin' like that :)
 
I kid you not. People say it sounds better. I can tell a difference. I say it sounds different, not necessarily better. It seems to have a softer sound, lends itself to a more glued together feeling at the mix bus. 
 
When I first heard it I didn't believe it either.

I hear you. I just think that you get used to something sounding a certain way, then you hear something different and your ear immediately thinks different=more interesting=better. Over time, if you get used to the "new" sound, when you switch back, the same will likely happen in the other direction. If you mix to a certain specific sound, you can replicate that sound in any modern DAW, no question.
 
Dan

I've also never been able to one click this. Unless your song starts at 1:1:000 I guess.
Which is almost never convenient.

I can one click between two markers and it selects that range. But I can't then shift click to add other between-marker-ranges. And that's again besides the point. I'm not arguing it's difficult to do any of these things. Just that the selection process is a relatively unnecessary step (at least other DAWs don't need it) and it's too easy to mess up once in a while.

Caa2

 
Re (1), I answered this in post #76.
Re (2), see (1). I don't read every word of every post in every thread, but your question (which I didn't see) got answered anyway.

konradh
Does Studio One have a Staff View?  I am not planning to change, but I am curious.  I do 80% of my work in Staff View.

Not as far as I can tell.  I think you have to buy Notion. But the good news is that Notion is somewhat tightly integrated with SO.  It is certainly more tightly integrated than having to export to MusicXML back and forth, but probably not as tightly integrated as Sonar's staff view.
 
In other words, I don't think Notion would work as smoothly as using Sonar's staff view for real-time composition. I do not have Notion, so I cannot speak from experience.

Anderton
This just underscores my point, often repeated in this forum, that no DAW does everything. So you pick the one that matches your needs the best. For me, that was - and remains - SONAR. 

Very well written exposition regarding using two or more DAWs.  I use Sonar for everything up to mastering, and then take advantange of (or will when I finish this project ) Studio One's mastering page because I've worked with it before and it's very useful.
 
The one thing I hope Sonar adopts from SOP -- wait, two things -- are the Scratch Pad setup SOP uses (notwithstanding Craig's "Tip of the Week" that allows for a Sonar version) and the Arranger page allowing quick and easy rearranging of song sections.  Otherwise, Sonar has everything I need (until Cubase, or Logic, or SOP or Reaper come up with something we simply can't live without!  ).

Not sure why some are having Export Tails trouble as I don't seem to (in fact my Preferences is set to 0:00), BUT... would bouncing each track with FX applied work?

soens
Not sure why some are having Export Tails trouble as I don't seem to (in fact my Preferences is set to 0:00), BUT... would bouncing each track with FX applied work?

If you set the bounce tails option to a time long enough to hold the tail, then bouncing would result in longer clips, and that would make it more likely that the longer time would be included in the export.
 
But I don't want to do that. I want to preserve my clips without effects so that I can mix it differently if I am not satisfied with the export.  I guess I could keep both sets of tracks, but that sounds like an exporting nightmare to me because then I'd have to remember exactly which tracks to select.

I downloaded the Studio One demona few days ago (Mac version), really because I thought I'd see what the fuss is about and switch to it if I find it does a better job for me.

Now, bear in mind this is the Mac version and some of my initial impressions may not hold for the Windows version.

The first performance-related thing I noticed is that latency in S1 is worse than I get in either Sonar or Logic at the same buffer/bit depth etc. settings. Not much, but noticable. To get the same latency (actually very slightly less) 64 sample buffers give in Sonar or Logic (which perform equally) I have to drop the buffer to 32 samples. Which does not help cpu usage at all.

I find S1's way of doing many things fairly unintuitive, certainly harder to switch between than Sonar to Logic (or vice versa). I find myself reading the manual for quite basic things I could 'just do' in Sonar/Logic because how to do it was obvious. At least to me.

S1’s plugin management isn't particularly good, it shows the AU, VST and VST3 versions of plugs at the same time without distinguishing between them and duplicates a lot of entries in the list - e.g. Plugin X might be listed three times under the company name 'Plugin Maker' and again under the company 'Plugin Maker Ltd."

I'm not keen on the gui either, though that's a personal preference. Not keen on the meters either.

So far I'm finding it hard work to use and I'm not at all sure I'd want to use it as a main DAW. Having said that for someone new to DAWs it may be more easily understood. But the latency issue is a definite, reproducible downside and I need low latency for DAW-monitoring quite a few tracks at a time.

On the plus side it installed easily enough, it remains to be seen if uninstalling is as simple.

Another plus is that it tells you what the latency each plugin is adding is, which is very useful.

Every now and so often I feel the need to do the next project with S1 because - well, I paid for it, right?
 
Saturday a singer-songwriter project needed some vocal alignment. For that you need VocaLine - $149 extra.
The project before was a rock band and I needed a drum replacer. Not included.
 
What I REALLY like about S1 is it names the audio files simply, and puts clips and bounces separately into their own folders...
 
...Perfect for importing back into Sonar. Ha!