drewfx1
So we go from wondering why the wars continue to insulting someone with whom we disagree in the space of 2 paragraphs.
 
Priceless, but funny. 

The Bapu is tough, I don't think it bothers him. 

If only other peeps were as tough as our Bapsy eh?

ampfixer

drewfx1
So we go from wondering why the wars continue to insulting someone with whom we disagree in the space of 2 paragraphs.
 
Priceless, but funny. 

The Bapu is tough, I don't think it bothers him. 

He's tough, but he has a tender side.
 
I know this because he has something in his plugin list called "Dream POP", and, well... 

craigb

Gosh, I don't diss Macs Kenny!  They're very useful.  Heck, they don't just support windows, but doors too! 

Since you are quite the entrepreneur  ,
Why don't you put a hinge on the top , take it on to Shark Tank and sell them on the idea that you invented a deluxe sanitary napkin disposable unit for rich people
 
Kenny

I think this might be a better spot rather than upstairs.  Rain has been down here too and I am sure he understands where I am coming from.
 
The problem here on the Sonar forum is you are getting a very one sided view of Macs.  99% of people here have been using a PC based program for a long time and they just have not come into contact with Macs at all.  So they don't really know what they are talking about.  They have just formed a biased opinion which is simply wrong and I mean wrong!
 
I have been on Windows too for a long time with Sonar and now Studio One for a long time as well and it all works fine on Windows.  I recently came into possession of a powerful iMac for a very good price and decided to jump at it.  At first I had some issues too and found it a little hard to get used to but after a while I just fell into it so easily and now I find Sierra just a beautiful and elegant operating system.  So much so that Windows feels clunky and a bit horrible to me now in fact.
 
Studio One runs very nice on a Mac too and unlike Sonar trying to be ported over which is really not the way to go about it, Studio One has been on the Mac right from the very start.  Not only has Studio One been written form the ground up but also written for the Mac ground up too and in complete tandem.  All the way along.  (Mixbus/32C is also probably in this situation as well)  So it runs sweet and it is painless moving from one platform to the other.
 
As Rain has correctly pointed out Logic is also a beautiful app and been written for the Mac since day one so in a way it is really designed for it.  I am about to get Logic too and as I used to use it before I know how marvellous it actually is.  In many ways it is way more elegant than Sonar.  And far ahead in some areas too.
 
I have not had a single issue installing and using Studio One.  Installing plugins is so easy it is amazing.  The thunderbolt port actually kills most things out there, end of story.  Without any issues as well.  Just plug in and get down to it.  Seriously simple and elegant.
 
Transferring projects between the two platforms is also painless as I do it all the time now.  You don't even need the Mac Pro either.  A powerful iMac runs easily as fast as my quad core PC.  Macs are not going away either.  They are talking of a new iMac Pro coming that will probably be in the same ballpark as the current Mac Pro.  And a new Mac Pro that will be fully expandable too.  And more powerful.  It is likely to leap ahead of the fastest PC's out there.
 
I love the way Macs don't boot up a mountain of programs either.  They don't boot up anything in fact, just get you to the desktop.  It is actually quite refreshing in this regard.  No tweaking to get the computer to run music either.  It all just works out of the box.  They are a beautiful thing.  
 
 
 
 
 

Hi Jeff ,
 
I bought my wife a Mac Book Pro. It was very expensive and I could have bought her a Windows laptop, probably higher spec, for half the price.
 
On top of that, she couldn't get to grips with getting used to the slightly different GUI, and, because I was also mainly windows based, over the years, I didn't have the patience to "get into it." My son now has it and even he has gone and installed Windows 10 on it.
 
I think the main problem for me is, I would rather support PC than Apple... I have an iPod nano, and I love that, but that's as far as I will go with Apple stuff. As a brand, I think it is a rip off. And it has always been that way, for as long as Macs have been available. And that goes for all their phone and iPod accessories.
 
Regarding some of the stuff going on here, and upstairs, is a backlash against some of the Mac peeps coming here and moaning about being let down. Not all the Mac users mind, I'll accept that.
 
For those that have the funds, money no object, then fine, get a Mac. Get Logic, I've always fancied that myself and waiting in vain for a Windows "port."
 
It's a pity about all the ongoing agro, but I think it will always be this way. But I would also like to think that some, if not most of it is light hearted banter.
 
cheers
 
andy
 
 

Thanks Andy. I can see the light heartedness of it believe me. I am finding it pretty funny.  I agree about the cost it is over the top.  I just picked up a very cheap iMac from a school at the end of a lease.  It was very cheap and still fairly current too.  And way powerful as well. 
 
I am not  sure I would go out and buy it all new though for sure.  I agree on that.  Logic is well priced though.

Macs are just £2000 facebook and web browsing machines anyway. Or you can spend £5000 on a mac ro get whats equivilent to an £800 PC.
 
Also the only thing that keeps macs alive is all their propriety software, which is also equally overpriced. 
 
 

Hehe... Kenny thinks I have a horse! 
 

Jeff Evans
The problem here on the Sonar forum is you are getting a very one sided view of Macs.  99% of people here have been using a PC based program for a long time and they just have not come into contact with Macs at all.  So they don't really know what they are talking about.  They have just formed a biased opinion which is simply wrong and I mean wrong!

 
Translation - "You guys are all ignorant twits!". 
 
Hopefully you see my point in the lighthearted way it is intended. But the truth is we're all sick of hearing how there's something wrong with us and we just don't get how great Macs are. That's one of the reason there's so much vitriol in these kinds of discussions - many of us get it, but we just don't like the Apple approach to things. At all.
 
Realistically, there are advantages and disadvantages, both architectural and in terms of user experience, with Windows/Mac/Linux. And they each serve different functions and user bases. And they all have issues as well as advantages.
 
But for some of us, the Apple approach is too limited and frustrating and if we found Windows didn't meet our needs we would just go with a version of Linux instead. And for those don't know why I say it's limited and frustrating, it's likely because you would just never, ever do some of things that Apple hides from the user. But some of us want to bang our heads against the wall when something we want or need isn't there in order to make something seem "cleaner" or "simpler" for users at opposite end of the spectrum from us.
 
So just please stop telling us that there's something wrong with us because we don't appreciate how great Macs are. It's just different strokes for different folks.