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  • More Precious Than Rubies - A Mothers Day song. (p.3)
2012/05/18 23:07:53
evadianepug
By golly, Bub, it is Head East. 
2012/05/19 09:03:15
Old55
Very nice.  Cool song.  I guess the earlier suggestions have been addressed because I didn't notice any problems now.  Kudos.  
2012/05/19 09:08:19
mattplaysguitar
Bub


I liked it. I did pick up on something in the background though. The timing of something doesn't quite right to me. Something in the background, I can't make out what it is. Maybe a bit too much delay on something?

@evadianepug: "... the singer reminds me of someone but I can't place it." He sounds just like the lead singer of Head East.

Yep, that ride sounds WAY late. It's REALLY distracting and I can't listen to it properly with it like that.... The rest of the drums and the crashes sound generally in time though so I don't know what's going on... It's almost like the drummer played to a click and kept playing early and the click was left in.. It's maybe like a 16th too late even? The drums lose it a little in some of the fills near the end, but nothing terrible or worth really worrying about too much. Just that darn ride...


Do you hear this, bapu? What do you think of it?
2012/05/19 09:10:27
Danny Danzi
Ed, this is really good man! I like everything about it. Solid mix. A few little crits if I may?

Definitely not diggin' the excessive vibrato on the vocal...there's so much it pushes itself out of key. I echo Herb on the Melodyne comment as that could have helped a bit there. Then the singer may have been upset because it would have definitely altered what he's used to.

Back-ups: We have some congestion there that is keeping them from coming out and hitting the way they should. They need a little more sparkle. Turning them up louder in their present form would mask other elements of the mix. A little 8-12k with a tight cue can add a little air to sparkle them up a bit...play with dropping mids from 600-800Hz add some air, compress them a bit more and they should leap into action.

Horns: We gotta get these babies out more. They sound VERY centered and sort of walk over top of things in the center pan field which gives them less impact when they hit. This is just me, but I would have made them hit pan wise on the outside of the ride and the hats...just outside the drum kit and in between the back up vocals. Eq sounded fine on them...they just were fighting too many centered instruments. You got 200 pan positions plus imaging if need be. Always try to use them to your advantage. Impact instruments need a special place to shine that isn't the same spot as a focal point position or a lead vocal. If these were mono you could have HAAS'd them and used an imager or a Sonitus Phase plug to make them a bit more narrow to control where they would hit.

Bub's timing comment: I hear it too. The drums are a little loose in spots...nothing major, but that's what *I* hear.

And...I hated the sna....sike, I absolutely LOVED this snare drum! Finally one I like! LOL! Nice crack, good body, perfect snare for the tune! Well done Ed, Alex and everyone else! Great tune, great mix! Hopefully some of this stuff helps you for next time. :)

-Danny
2012/05/19 09:20:34
ProjectM
I thought the song was cool Sounds great!

Vocals a tad low in places, the ride - like someone else have mentioned here as well - dunno what's going on. The Brass Stabs were a little too much to the front.

But the song is good. It was fun to listen too and well played and recorded!

BTW, how's EZKeys to work with? Is it like an automatic piano player?
2012/05/19 10:23:09
chasmcg
Great mix. Enjoyed the listen.
2012/05/19 12:44:35
bapu
ProjectM


BTW, how's EZKeys to work with? Is it like an automatic piano player?

Marius,


No, it's not an automatic piano player but it was helpful as I'm not that good of piano player.
2012/05/19 13:45:56
Mooch4056


Marius,


No, it's not an automatic piano player but it was helpful as I'm not that good of piano player.

Well ring the bell and toot the horn. Captain Obvious!
2012/05/19 15:28:38
Jonbouy
This is a strange one for sure.

It's kind of retro but from an era I don't think I've been through yet.

Looking at the draught excluder type wave form I think it has probably lost a lot of dynamics through the limiting stage and although it doesn't sound compressed per se there's certainly little in the way of dynamic relief it just sounds to the max from start to finish, I'm pretty sure just relaxing the final level would open it up some and make it less full time full on.

I get the ride thing too, I used to play in a club where a drunken man would always insist on playing the spoons next to me everytime I played there, it reminds me of that.  Are you sure one of the stems (OH's?) isn't out of alignment there?  Solo it perhaps there is some kind of slap-back thing going on.

But yes a curious piece unlike anything I've heard before yet it evokes another age somehow.
2012/05/19 19:28:29
IK Obi
I like! the only thing that stuck out was sometimes the ride would be off, but I liked the song and especially the guitar tone!
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