• SONAR
  • No notation fixes! (p.83)
2015/09/05 22:11:09
backwoods
It's not a request exactly is it. If it is it should be moved to suggestion box. 
 
My guess- pulled from ether with no knowledge of customer surveys, inner cakewalk workings, user base  etc etc : less than 5 per cent. (totally arbitrary guess) what's yours?
2015/09/05 22:20:18
skinnybones lampshade
My guess would be, that if the Bakers spent the 5% you estimate of their time on improving notation, all of us would be very satisfied :)
2015/09/05 22:21:09
backwoods
Maybe they already are lampshade. I hope you get your wish sir :)
2015/09/05 22:25:09
skinnybones lampshade
Thank you :) . That was very sweet.
 
P.S. I'm not a sir, but I have really enjoyed this civil exchange with you!
2015/09/05 22:43:14
Brando
backwoods
Buy something for what it is- not for something you desire it to be in the future. I hope you guys get what you want but maybe it's not that easy or they would have done it already. Or maybe not many people want it!


Nonsense. The whole premise of the membership model was that cake would roll out a mix of new features and fixes on a monthly basis. No one could have predicted that (for example) one of the features would be Drum Replacer. No one knows whether or what (if anything) Cake has in store for Notation. This is only about a user base trying to voice their opinion. 
2015/09/05 22:45:17
kennywtelejazz
I don't think this topic really has anything to do with if you want to read music or not …
as far as choosing to read …that is a personal choice  …
 
We happen to be in the first 30 + years of a Digital Revolution ….
 
For myself personally , I'm astounded at the level and the depth of the tools I got w SONAR X 3 
 
 
I think a large part of what the major complaint is ….
Midi itself is very accurate and can be dialed into very precise settings …
For some unexplained reason SONAR's notational tools do not seem able to reproduce absolutely correct notation in the form of what the Composer is expecting to see in the staff view …the midi end of things seem to play fine 
 
Kenny 
 
 
2015/09/05 22:51:05
backwoods
From my viewpoint Kenny: I don't use Sonar Notation and never will. I don't care for it to be developed. Other daws- Cubase, Digital Performer, Pro Tools et al have superior notation. Rather than constant frustration about Sonar's notation, why not just buy another DAW? 
2015/09/05 23:10:27
michaelhanson
skinnybones lampshade
OK, 819 replies as of now - How does that compare with other threads and/or requests for other improvements or changes to existing features in terms of percentage of user base?


The FSF in the Coffee House is still in the lead, with over 42,839 posts.....and that's about no topic at all. 😄
2015/09/06 00:15:32
kennywtelejazz
backwoods
From my viewpoint Kenny: I don't use Sonar Notation and never will. I don't care for it to be developed. Other daws- Cubase, Digital Performer, Pro Tools et al have superior notation. Rather than constant frustration about Sonar's notation, why not just buy another DAW? 




hello backwoods ,
 
I am perfectly willing and able to accept your view point….
 
For some people , this notation issue is an important feature they would like to have fixed in SONAR ….
 
In my Case I have already solved this problem . 
I honestly don't need to go out and buy another DAW that has superior notational abilities ….
I already have that base covered w Logic Pro 9 , Samplitude Pro X2 and an older version of Cubase …
Then for grins and giggles I have Musescore 2 and a light version of Forte….
 
FWIW,  I happen to love working with DAW's that have no notational capabilities what so ever …  
I'm still a hardcore Project 5 user and I happen to Love Abelton Live 9.2 ….
I happen to think it is fantastic as far as what can be done in both audio and midi in these exceptional music programs ….
For the record, I'm in both camps and at the end of the day I'm not looking to take sides …
 
My Sonar experience only goes back 10 years and I started out with Home Studio 2 in 2005 …
There are many folks that got 5 to almost 10 years on that but honestly , thats not the point I'm looking to make .
I'm bringing it up because when all is said and done I'm still a guy that feels the most comfortable using SONAR 
 
So , getting back to what I had to do to solve this notation problem ,
From my point of view , my solution has brought up it's own set of problems ….
 
To solve my notational issues I've had to become a "Jack of multiple DAW's and a Master of None " 
Let's face it folks  …….I'm not The Big C ….. …I'm just the little K …lol 
 
As a DAW SONAR is pretty hard to beat ….
Having said that , I happen to think that most SONAR users that use notation just want a more refined staff view that functions correctly …..How many ways can I say the same thing ? 
Not everybody wants to go out and buy a new DAW just for that one feature  , a lot of people want to stay with what they know and feel comfortable with ….
 
all the best , 
 
Kenny
 
 
2015/09/06 00:42:06
mettelus
backwoods
Buy something for what it is- not for something you desire it to be in the future.


As many have made these requests for over a decade, banking on "hope" often ends up a fool's errand, especially with zero insight into what is really happening. As many features are 1-3 months out, and this hasn't even made the list, I wouldn't be banking on this magically appearing.

That goes for all feature requests, especially those that may be complex in nature. This thread might end with "2025 or BUST."
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