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2017/04/04 21:01:17
FCCfirstclass
Bertha hit her target dead on today.
 
http://wsdotblog.blogspot.com/2017/04/bertha-breakthrough.html
 
She is the largest boring machine to date at over 55' to have a double decker highway under Seattle. 
2017/04/04 22:11:40
Beepster
I have actually watched docs on ole Bertha and other such machines. Very interesting (and cool... to me) stuff.
 
Not sure why boring machines fascinate me so.
 
It couldn't possibly be because I'm so...
 
...
 
nah
 
;-)
2017/04/04 22:25:13
bitman
What is cooler that a TBM?
 
 
2017/04/04 23:45:54
slartabartfast
FCCfirstclass
Bertha hit her target dead on today.
 
http://wsdotblog.blogspot.com/2017/04/bertha-breakthrough.html
 
She is the largest boring machine to date at over 55' to have a double decker highway under Seattle. 




Dead on location. Not so much for completion date.
2017/04/05 00:59:15
bitflipper
We'll miss Bertha. She/it has provided 50% of all local news for the past 2 years.
 

2017/04/05 02:49:35
craigb
Now she can go back to making all those hidden tunnels across the United States that the conspiracy theorists have been talking about!
 
(Some of which actually DO exist!  I got an off chance to talk with a trucker who had to make a delivery many miles underground and all the of the NDA's he had to sign even though he couldn't see much of anything.)
2017/04/05 14:36:24
FCCfirstclass
Yes, the largest TBM at six stories tall,  hitting her target right on the money.  To me it is amazing as there is no GPS underground and so the directions are given by lasers. 
 
She still has to build another 3 rings to complete her task.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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2017/04/05 16:10:04
DeeringAmps
I must admit that when she hit the "pole", I predicted that she would stay right where she was,
and never see the light of day.
Guess that's why I'm not a civil engineer?
mybad?
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2017/04/05 19:15:26
slartabartfast
FCCfirstclass
To me it is amazing as there is no GPS underground and so the directions are given by lasers. 
 

 
GPS has nowhere even close to the accuracy available with light. Even a run of the mill total station theodolite has an accuracy of a few millimeters over distances greater than a mile. Laser interferometry is astonishingly accurate. The system used to detect the first gravity waves was able to measure changes in distance of a fraction of the diameter of a proton. The limiting factor is accurately determining the exact location of the starting point, but once this is known (in this case it only needs to be known relative to the ending point) the second point can be very accurately determined indeed. 
 
Typical GPS accuracy is about 3 meters. This can be enhanced by averaging many readings over a period of time (the little flying saucer on a tripod that you see near highway construction is an antenna that allows this), and by integration with WWS signals where they are available to get within a few millimeters in the best case, but the signal can be distorted by nearby objects and atmospheric conditions. And each GPS point is individually located with an inherent error relative to any previous point. 
2017/04/05 21:12:00
craigb
Anyone else wonder what Slart's Doctorate(s) might be in? 
 
(Hey, it could be in simply researching the facts versus the hype, but I still find it refreshing!)
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