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2014/08/31 14:53:46
ampfixer
Once you use Melodyne to fix something, do you bounce that track to another track that's "fixed" or do you have to keep the Melodyne plug running until the final mix?
2014/08/31 15:02:25
Paul G
ampfixer
Once you use Melodyne to fix something, do you bounce that track to another track that's "fixed" or do you have to keep the Melodyne plug running until the final mix?

I'm using Editor 2 in X2 in the FX bin in a separate track and bring in clips as needed.  Once they're edited I just import them back into the original track and move on.  I don't think you'd want to build up a series of Melodyne edited clips.  It would be too taxing on your system.
 

2014/08/31 16:11:48
Sanderxpander
With X3, it's not like previous times where you had Melodyne in the FX bin and you had to freeze the bin or bounce to another track in order to fix your edits. It's more like V-Vocal where the effect is just on a clip. If you want to bounce it, you'd use bounce to clip, not bounce to track, generally. It's quicker and easier too. I tend to not bounce to clips at all, I haven't had the necessity from a CPU point of view. I have had some minor instabilities in projects with a lot of open Melodyne instances and edits. I haven't been able to really pinpoint a specific issue though. If you wanted to be very safe I suppose you could clone the track, make your edits, bounce them to clips and archive the original. I just save my project a lot with incremental version names.

EDIT:
I should add that, with the current ARA based workflow, it's really easy to use Melodyne just on a clip or part of a clip. You just select the part that you think is off and hit CTRL+M. Previously, it would make sense to "transfer" the entire track but that's not really necessary anymore. So it's quite easy to end up with ten "bits" of Melodyne across a lead vocal track, as opposed to one huge one. Hasn't been a CPU problem for me yet though.
2014/08/31 16:34:50
bapu
Paul G
ampfixer
Once you use Melodyne to fix something, do you bounce that track to another track that's "fixed" or do you have to keep the Melodyne plug running until the final mix?

I'm using Editor 2 in X2 in the FX bin in a separate track and bring in clips as needed.  Once they're edited I just import them back into the original track and move on.  I don't think you'd want to build up a series of Melodyne edited clips.  It would be too taxing on your system.
 



Yep.
 
ampfixer, but beware. If you have ANY fx's turned on for the Melodyned track when you bounce to clip your bounced clip *may* be louder (I also have seen the fx now in the bounced clip). This is why I do what Paul G does. Clone the track (sans any FXs). Do Melodyne edits there and replace the original clips/are with those Melodyne edits.
2014/08/31 17:28:05
S.L.I.P.
Here's a really good Melodyne video; 
Solo guitar techniques 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9roYSersvLM
2014/08/31 23:42:45
Jimbo 88
I'm starting to use Melodyne and really liking it.  I have "Essential" tho....do I need to upgrade to get the ability to use the polyphonic setting? 
 
I'm recording a project with flute and clarinet playing together,  occasionally one will have a note out of tune. I am having trouble fixing one note due to bleed over on the mics.  I don't want to spend $300 on an upgrade option that might not do me any good.  
2014/09/01 03:08:43
Anderton
Jimbo 88
I'm starting to use Melodyne and really liking it.  I have "Essential" tho....do I need to upgrade to get the ability to use the polyphonic setting?

 
Yes. 
 
I'm recording a project with flute and clarinet playing together,  occasionally one will have a note out of tune. I am having trouble fixing one note due to bleed over on the mics.  I don't want to spend $300 on an upgrade option that might not do me any good.  



There's a 30 day free trial.
 
2014/09/01 08:33:17
benjaminfrog
I'm guessing I'm in the minority, but I have mixed feelings about Melodyne. I love it conceptually, especially the polyphonic algorithm (how mind-blowing is that?), but, when using it for pitch correction, it's rare that the results don't sound phasey to me and lack the high end the definition of the original clip.
 
It may be that I have more to learn about how to use it effectively. I don't doubt that, but, so far, I've been able to get results with better fidelity from AutoTune in graphical mode. As an aside, I think a lot of folks have a negative view of AutoTune, because of how it's been (over) used as an effect and because of how unnatural it sounds when used in that manner. Additionally, I think a lot of people are unaware that AutoTune has a non-auto mode.
 
One of the things I have been happily using Melodyne for recently is working out vocal harmonies and then singing along to the retuned clips when I record those parts. This way I can concentrate on matching the timing and feel, but not get distracted by the notes of the original melody. Better singers probably have no issue with this, but my voice often slips back into singing in unison with the melody, if that's the part I'm listening to when recording the harmony.
 
Another thing I've been using it for lately is the amplitude tool. This works great for leveling out dynamic performances without the side effects of compression and without introducing the phasey artifacts I mentioned above that result from using it for pitch correction.
 
All in all, I think Melodyne is an amazing product that does a lot (I haven't even touched the timing tool yet). I do hope, however, that in subsequent versions they will improve the audio fidelity of the pitch correction algorithm.
 
Cheers!
2014/09/01 09:13:39
Sanderxpander
Plus Celemony has been offering the upgrade for just 150 to Sonar users. Email them, several of us have done this.
2014/09/01 10:54:33
blu lacez
Hmmm, i have always avoided it,cuz imnot sure how to use it..lol. I even avoid V-vOCAL, LOL. However, i might start to test it.  How would you guys rate this over Antares Auto Tune?
Any videos on tuning vocls with Melodyne?
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