• SONAR
  • Status of X4? (Confirmed or Suspected) (p.11)
2014/09/01 12:34:22
brconflict
listen
If I was at CHURCH :-) this is when everybody would say AMEN!!!!!!
 


ok.
2014/09/01 12:38:06
Sanderxpander
I'm with Craig, if any DAW is drawing people away from PT it's Logic (9 as well as X). Mac dominates the pro audio world. I'm a professional in The Netherlands (mostly live playing but a fair amount of studio jobs both playing and recording/mixing as well) and I am literally the ONLY pro I know who uses PC. It's so annoying compatibility wise that I've been on the edge of getting a Mac many times now, though I dislike OSX and hate Mac's prices and upgrade policies.
2014/09/01 13:52:01
Thatsastrat
What is professional? I always equated professional with the fact that it was something you did, and got paid for it. For years I was a professional musician, in my eye, because I got paid to do it. Now I am sadly just a hobbyist. These people that are being talked about that use Pro Tools have tens of thousands invested in there set up, for the most part. Clearly that is not the market, nor should it be, that Sonar is trying to attract. I rather like the fact when someone asks me what daw software I use, and I reply, quite proudly, "Sonar". Makes me feel like I know something they do not. Daw software was developed with the idea that lots of folks would like to record and produce their own, or someone else's music, without having to invest tens of thousands in cash. This is the market for Sonar, because it has the most potential for continued growth, not the group who are so financially committed. Just my thoughts, you can agree or not.
2014/09/01 13:56:21
Sanderxpander
I really don't like the distinction pro/amateur very much, let's not focus the discussion too much on that. I just meant to indicate that I'm part of the Dutch "music scene" and all my colleagues and most of my friends are money making musicians or engineers.

PCs have a larger share of the amateur "market" because many people who do music for a hobby have a PC and then want to add recording options to their computer. A lot of warez circulate in that circuit though so I'm not entirely sure how much of a "market" there is.
2014/09/01 14:03:47
Thatsastrat
Sanderxpander
I really don't like the distinction pro/amateur very much, let's not focus the discussion too much on that. I just meant to indicate that I'm part of the Dutch "music scene" and all my colleagues and most of my friends are money making musicians or engineers.

PCs have a larger share of the amateur "market" because many people who do music for a hobby have a PC and then want to add recording options to their computer. A lot of warez circulate in that circuit though so I'm not entirely sure how much of a "market" there is.

My response was not intended as a direct response to your reply, it was more of an overall thread reply.
Carry on!
2014/09/01 14:06:40
robert_e_bone
I think Sonar is quite capable of 'big boy' productions.
 
Here are a few links of projects that were done with Sonar:
 
http://blog.cakewalk.com/film-composer-james-bernhard-gets-it-done-right-with-sonar/
 
http://blog.cakewalk.com/professional-sonar-users-on-sonar-x3/
 
http://www.vgmonline.net/seanmurrayinterview/
 
Bob Bone
 
 
2014/09/01 15:01:54
Anderton
Tracked four classical albums (including one that won an award) in Pro Tools only because that's what was at the studio. Everything after that was done in Sonar.
2014/09/02 00:10:57
brconflict
It seems at one time, 'Pro's' and 'Professionals' were once synonymous. It must be a long gone thing.
So, let's take Professional out of the picture and state "Industry Standard", or most widely accepted. 
 
Bob posted some positive links. I'd love to see more like that. The more people in the industry that accept Sonar as what they will advocate, perhaps the more steam and fire-power it'll get. 
 
Can someone find out what hardware Timothy Wynn is running Sonar on? Or how slimmed down his plug-ins are? I'm genuinely curious about him running 175 tracks. 
2014/09/02 01:58:10
robert_e_bone
2014/09/02 09:47:38
brconflict
Bob, in the last links you posted, these are PT rigs. Did I miss something?
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