2016/03/03 13:26:28
mcourter
I think it's a blast, but to my tinnitic ears the whole thing could use a treble boost. The highs aren't as crisp and clear as I'd like. But otherwise it's a fun composition.
2016/03/03 13:35:48
dcumpian
mikebeam
I used this chart for panning - http://www.shanescott.com/orchestra-panning-guide-for-producers-and-mix-engineers/#.Vth2VZMrJZ0
 
I'm not in front of the project at the moment so I'll go back and make sure I did everything correctly.  My intention is to pan the French Horn left at about 25%, Trumpets Right 9%, Trombones Right about 25%.  I'm pretty sure that I didn't pan anything more than 82%.
 
But as I'm writing this...  I'm wondering if the EWQL engine had the instruments panned and then I panned them additionally in Sonar.  I'll go back and take another look later today.  What do you think about the reference chart?  Does that look right to you guys?  
 
dcumpian
 
 
I'd ask the question a different way: Have you added any basses and cellos? If so, then it's an EQ problem. If not, well, you have your answer.




Yeah - that's kind of what I meant.  There are basses and cellos, but would you suggest that I just increase the volume of those instruments or put an EQ on the master bus?  




I try to avoid EQ on the master until I am finalizing a mix. I'd say you may need to revisit the tracks that represent your low/low mid notes and check their levels. Also check any EQ on those tracks to ensure you aren't filtering out any frequencies you should be keeping.
 
To me, it's a mix problem that a simple EQ on the master isn't going to fix.
 
As far as the most recent comment from Mark, that can certainly be addressed at the mastering stage. I would not suggest trying to brighten those tracks too much or you will end up with a very brittle-sounding mix once you get to the mastering stage.
 
Regards,
Dan
 
 
2016/03/03 15:05:57
stevec
Nothing to add to the above regarding the mix...  But I liked the piece!   Even the ping-pong/panned parts, I thought they were actually kinda cool, like new-skool orchestral or somethin'.   
 
2016/03/03 16:28:49
mikebeam
Thanks everyone!  I appreciate all the positive comments and feedback...
 
I went in and made some adjustments - turns out the horns were panned a little too far left.  BTW (It's totally awesome that you guys can catch over-panning by 10% - awesome!)  I've also brought up the volume of the low end instruments almost throughout which I think added some nice dynamics.  I also tried a new articulation on the Clarinet legato section that I think cuts through much better.
 
https://soundcloud.com/iambeam/allegro-1
 
I left the other one up there too for the time being so you could A/B the both of them - I think it sounds MUCH better...  Overall each of those changes had a pretty big cumulative effect...
2016/03/03 16:36:28
eph221
Really nice composition.  Send it in for the new Harry Potter movie.  You'll get a grammy.
2016/03/03 17:54:17
Leizer
I love it musically! Sometimes it sounds like the strings and trumpets are stumbling on their notes. I have this problem myself, and haven't a good solution. I avoid to mess with the velocity too much and makes most dynamic changes by expression. And maybe a tiny reverb on the master to bind it together more? Great work, love to hear more of this!
2016/03/04 07:57:04
mikebeam
Thanks.  I'm always a bit wary of adding too much reverb.  I already have some on the master bus...  I could spend a lifetime playing with reverb settings, changing it depending on my mood of the moment....  I think I'm pretty satisfied with it - my brain has already moved on to writing my next project...  
 
 
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