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2014/08/07 09:26:53
_Angus_
 
 
Hi guys,
 
I've just upgraded to X3 Producer, and I'm very happy in general about it.
 
My lack of basic knowledge is letting me down a bit, but what I've always liked about Sonar is that it seems very intuitive to me, and usually I can make quite a bit of progress without getting fed up.
 
So with Producer having all these extras, I'm currently stumbling a bit on Addictive Drums 2.....
 
With Sonar's inbuilt drums I can pull a sample from the right edge and just extend it across the track, but that's not possible with Addictive, is it?
 
I wanted to make just a basic drum track to jam with and ended up copying the sample across several times, which is fine but I wondered if there was a better way.
 
 I suppose basically it would be handy reading or watching something that told me the basics of workings with Addictive within Sonar. I've seen one video but it was more running off the feature list than a "getting started" thing.
 
Any pointers?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2014/08/07 09:58:18
bluzdog
You should check out some of the AD videos: http://www.cakewalk.com/CakeTV/SONAR-University/Get-Started.
 
Rocky
2014/08/07 10:01:32
bluzdog
There's some on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt2K-qvYCK8
 
Rocky
2014/08/07 11:11:59
John
_Angus_
 
 
Hi guys,
 
I've just upgraded to X3 Producer, and I'm very happy in general about it.
 
My lack of basic knowledge is letting me down a bit, but what I've always liked about Sonar is that it seems very intuitive to me, and usually I can make quite a bit of progress without getting fed up.
 
So with Producer having all these extras, I'm currently stumbling a bit on Addictive Drums 2.....
 
With Sonar's inbuilt drums I can pull a sample from the right edge and just extend it across the track, but that's not possible with Addictive, is it?
 
I wanted to make just a basic drum track to jam with and ended up copying the sample across several times, which is fine but I wondered if there was a better way.
 
 I suppose basically it would be handy reading or watching something that told me the basics of workings with Addictive within Sonar. I've seen one video but it was more running off the feature list than a "getting started" thing.
 
Any pointers?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


You seem to be saying two different things here. A sample is an audio component (wav file) that a sampler plays back. Addictive Drums uses these samples as the source for its drum sounds. You sound as if you are actually using loops and if it is triggering AD then it must be a MIDI loop. It is not a sample. A sample is audio. 
 
If it were an audio loop you have no need for AD.
 
 
2014/08/08 07:22:29
_Angus_
John
_Angus_
 
 
Hi guys,
 
I've just upgraded to X3 Producer, and I'm very happy in general about it.
 
My lack of basic knowledge is letting me down a bit, but what I've always liked about Sonar is that it seems very intuitive to me, and usually I can make quite a bit of progress without getting fed up.
 
So with Producer having all these extras, I'm currently stumbling a bit on Addictive Drums 2.....
 
With Sonar's inbuilt drums I can pull a sample from the right edge and just extend it across the track, but that's not possible with Addictive, is it?
 
I wanted to make just a basic drum track to jam with and ended up copying the sample across several times, which is fine but I wondered if there was a better way.
 
 I suppose basically it would be handy reading or watching something that told me the basics of workings with Addictive within Sonar. I've seen one video but it was more running off the feature list than a "getting started" thing.
 
Any pointers?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


You seem to be saying two different things here. A sample is an audio component (wav file) that a sampler plays back. Addictive Drums uses these samples as the source for its drum sounds. You sound as if you are actually using loops and if it is triggering AD then it must be a MIDI loop. It is not a sample. A sample is audio. 
 
If it were an audio loop you have no need for AD.
 
 




 
Thanks Blusjam, I looked at the Addictive drums video, but found it to be leaning a bit more towards a promotional effort than an instructive one for my tastes.
 
John, thanks - I'm sure I'm using the wrong terms and as I say, my depth of knowledge is fairly pitiful.
 
I was trying to say that the drums I'd used before in X1 and X2 (Studio Instruments?) I could pick a pattern, drop it into a track and stretch out its duration as required. Based on what you're saying, I gather this is not the way Addictive Drums works. I'm really after some basic info about the approach to take with Addictive, I suppose.
 
Sorry for my ignorance, at best I muddle through but with X3 Producer there's quite a bit of (cool) new stuff, that is a quite a lot to take in.
 
 
2014/08/08 09:11:36
dwardzala
They both use midi patterns to drive them.  AD's patterns may not be set up as loops, so if you want to drop a 2 measure pattern in and then drag it out so that it is 16 measures long, you can turn it into a groove clip loop by right clicking on the clip and selecting groove clip looping. (I think that's where that pick is found.)
 
You'll know that it is by the fact that corners of the clip are "beveled".
2014/08/08 09:37:59
_Angus_
Thanks Dave - most helpful.  :)
2014/08/08 09:50:45
JonD
bluzdog
There's some on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt2K-qvYCK8
 
Rocky



OP seems to have missed this recommendation.  A simple YouTube search for 'addictive drums' brings up dozens of useful tutorials.
 
2014/08/08 12:00:37
ShellstaX
I composed a response earlier in the day ... but could not post - gremlins :)
 
I'm with @dwardzala  that's it's 'groove clip looping' you're after ... so FWIW here's what I set aside til the gremlins were vanquished ...
 
2 keys - CTRL + L
 
I think you are describing Groove Clips(?) - so yes, it's totally possible and not just Producer or AD2.
 
Either:
- Right Click in the clip header and choose "Groove-Clip Looping"
- or CTRL+L (with the clip in focus / highlighted)
 
As per:
http://www.cakewalk.com/D...p;help=Looping.01.html
 
and at 3:00 minutes from this X2 video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZA0S7eRSWw
(I suggest you watch the whole video - at least afterward)
 
It should then be 'right edge extendable'.
 
2014/08/25 12:51:37
orangesporanges
Hi Angus, I'm on the exact same mission, so anything I find out there I'll come back and update.
Tim
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