@johnnewyork, 
 
Here is the link to the post with my questions: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3079438
 
In addition, a couple of folks were also asking what happens if you open one of these problematic projects in Safe Mode, skipping the plugins.
 
Bob Bone
 

robert_e_bone
@johnnewyork, 
 
Here is the link to the post with my questions: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3079438

Maybe he just skimmed that one and did not take it all in.

'I think you have a thin skin and are being over sensitive. And are skimming my posts without really reading them.'
 
'If you can tell me the type of information that would be helpful and how to access it I'll get it and post it. '
 
Well that explains it, a bit of an own goal.
For the record I and others it seems have had the courtesy to read every single one of your comments carefully and have asked for clarification and further info several times which you haven't even read by the look of your last comment. You also missed my comment on the windows event viewer for instance. 
 
There were also several polite comments expressing sympathy of your predicament that you might also have glossed over which may explain your misunderstandings in peoples motivations. For the record pretty much everyone has been trying to help and again I am hoping your issue will be resolved.
 
Over sensitivity no, I just want to help people get to the bottom of their technical issues without the drama (I don't have time for it sorry).
 
My advise is to read the thread from beginning to end again, avoid reading/interpretting/making negative comments and try and give people a direct answer (ask for further help if you are confused) and this may be your first step towards a solution which all of us are hopeful you will have.So let's start a clean sheet..

Uh, 
 
Bueller?  Bueller?
 
Bob Bone

I wish this thread title didn't represent the assertion, as fact, that X3 destroyed work. This has certainly not been determined to be the case, at this point.
 
I am hoping the OP re-engages in the thread at some point today, as well - and provides the requested information.
 
Bueller?
 
Bob Bone
 

robert_e_bone
I wish this thread title didn't represent the assertion, as fact, that X3 destroyed work. This has certainly not been determined to be the case, at this point.

I changed it, but still don't have an answer to what happens when the 8.5 projects are opened in 8.5 so I may have to change it again...

Thanks - I am still hoping to hear from the OP - but it seems like it is fading - he had been on when at least one of my earlier posts yesterday was put out there, and had responded elsewhere in a different thread, but not to his thread.
 
That, combined with the fairly dismissive and non-responsive behavior is not too encouraging.
 
Time will tell, and it is, or was, his set of issues - so I am happy to help, or happy to wish him luck going it without my assistance.
 
Bob Bone
 

bapu
Maybe he just skimmed that one and did not take it all in.

D'OH!
 

 
Here is the link for the driver/firmware updates page for you:
 
http://www.lynxstudio.com/support_downloads_results.asp?prod=1&type=0
 
Few questions for you:
 
1.  Do you have the latest X3 maintenance applied?  (X3e)
2.  You indicated some 8.5.3 projects open in X3, which is very helpful to know.  Can you try to detail differences between the ones that do open, and the ones that are now messed up?  That might also help narrow things down.
3.  Are you running with ASIO as your driver mode in X3?  (Lynx had prior issues when not running ASIO, if I recall correctly from some time ago).
 
Hang in there,
 
Bob Bone

 
I had some things to take care of. I did not give up. And it took me at least an hour to get into safe mode since I haven't had to do that before in Win7. After tapping the F8 key while booting up for a while I looked online and soneone advised "you have to hold down the F8 key" which didn't work either, then I found out you have to enter msconfig in the search engine to access it.
 
1) I think so but I'm not sure
2)There are differing degrees of "messed up".
 
I'd gotten error messages stating that some of the older plugs no longer worked or weren't "recognized" on other songs.
 
On a couple of 8.5.3 PE projects, X3 plugins don't work. I would put the blue tubes oil can delay, for example, into the fx window but it wouldn't "see" a signal. The icon showed up but it didn't do anything.
 
VC64 still works in some cases... should it? It's no longer in the fx bin.
 
After copying and pasting an older version of the project and changing the title to use it as a "guinea pig" I went into safe mode and opened a couple of later versions that I'd already opened with X3. They were the same, stripped of automation, plugins, pan assignments, all the mute buttons unmuted.
 
I then opened up the older version that I hadn't opened with X3 in safe mode and it was intact (there wasn't any automation at that point) The plugins were all there. The projects all have X3 logos on them even if they hadn't been opened with X3.
 
Then after starting Win7 normally I opened the same older guinea pig project. All the waveforms in track view now showed up as thin "pencil lines". Maybe I should have checked to see if the plugins were missing but I was kind of taken aback.
 
3) Yes
 
I was going to contact Lynx today but I didn't get to it. Last time I contacted their tech he said I should call up when I have more time to update the firmware which makes it seem like it isn't something that's impossible to foul up, so I'll do that tomorrow.
 
Is any of this helpful? Are we getting closer?

Okay, I just reopened it (guinea pig project) in 8.5 and it isn't importing audio tracks.
A dialog box opens up and the missing track names show up one by one and if I try to open any it says "can't find item". After a couple of "skips" I hit "skip all" to finish opening the project and then when I looked in track view the waveforms were all missing. No audio.
 
When I cut and pasted the project to a folder on the desktop, opening the project caused it to create a separate folder so that when I went back to look at it later there were now 2 folders instead of one, one for the project and one for the audio tracks. It automatically segregated them.

@jonnewyork
 
 
 
YIKES - when they mentioned Safe mode, they meant to start SONAR in safe mode, and not Windows.
 
Windows in safe mode will not hurt anything, but is not what had been intended for you to do, so please feel free to restart your computer with a normal everyday start up.
 
Here is the Sonar documentation link for starting Sonar X3 in safe mode:
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X3&language=3&help=Dialogs2.094.html
 
If you open your problem project in Sonar Safe Mode, it will give you the choice of loading or skipping the load for each plugin the project contains.  IF there are plugin problems, this gives you a way to debug them, by loading or skipping plugins to try to figure out if any are causing a problem.  I am not sure why they directed you to do this, and will go back through all of the posts in the thread to try to figure that out.
 
I read your post above in a hurry, as I started this post as soon as I got to the part about you starting Windows in safe mode, rather than Sonar.  Whoever had suggested that might have been a bit clearer on the difference between the 2.  They definitely meant to start Sonar in safe mode.
 
So, I will now go back through your most recent post, and try to make sense of it - and I will post again in a little bit.
 
By the way, I was hoping you were simply just attending other things, thanks for the post back today.
 
Bob Bone