Hi

I'm new to sonar and have just closed a thread where I was experiencing a time line freeze. I assumed I was just doing something wrong but it appears that there may be an issue with the digi 002r drivers, hence the new thread.

From what I've been able to find, there are a range of possible fixes, from 'disable multicore support' all the way to 'just get a new interface'!

I'm not great with all the various driver type issues and diving deep into settings etc but I'm hoping that someone out there may be able to help me.

Any ideas guys? I was thinking of installing the newest digi drivers even though they state that they do not support the 002r. Worth a shot?

Ya know, an interface from 2003 is not going to have good drivers if any that run on a W7 64 bit system,,, The heart of all DAW recording is the drivers.. New interface time I say. 

Just loaded up the 003 drivers from the digi site and it seems to run ok in WDMKS.

I only had time for a very quick check but the only problem I could see (playback only - haven't tried any recording or synth playing) was a delay of about 2 seconds before play back starts after hitting play.

Any ideas on the delay, or maybe this is just a 'feature' of my set up with those drivers?

Not sure why my auto signature isn't working. Here are the system details:
X3e Producer
Win7 64
i7 4770k 3.5GHz
16GB RAM
Digi 002r

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Just loaded up the 003 drivers from the digi site and it seems to run ok in WDMKS.

I only had time for a very quick check but the only problem I could see (playback only - haven't tried any recording or synth playing) was a delay of about 2 seconds before play back starts after hitting play.

Any ideas on the delay, or maybe this is just a 'feature' of my set up with those drivers?

The delay can be 4 things.
1. You have a pre-count for the metronome
2. You have your WDM slider settings to high
3. Your drivers are horrible for the DIGI
4. Your PC MOBO and your sound card drivers do not like each other
 
CJ

CJaysMusic

The delay can be 4 things.
1. You have a pre-count for the metronome
2. You have your WDM slider settings to high
3. Your drivers are horrible for the DIGI
4. Your PC MOBO and your sound card drivers do not like each other
 
CJ

Thanks CJ. I had another look over things:
1. I hadn't thought of something so obvious as a silent pre-count! I checked, but it's not that.
2. I'm assuming you mean the buffer here. If that's the case then I've tried various values with no success.
3. They are Digi win7 64 standalone drivers i.e. for use with Digi002r on software other than PT. I've tried a few different variations of them now on my system, all with the same results.
4. Not possible for me to quantify this.
 
So, other than the second or 2 delay on hitting play, everything else appears to work and the sound quality is great using WDMKS. Conversely, when I switch to ASIO, the playback starts immediately on hitting play, but I only get a second or so of audio before it drops out (timeline also stops)!
 
If anyone has has any further ideas, then I be very grateful to hear them.
 
Meanwhile, I'll try to live with the delay for a while before I go down the route of buying a new interface. The digi is perfect for my set up, so I want to be certain before I even consider buying a new interface.  
 
I'll update this thread as I go, in case anyone else hits a similar problem.

Hi - I am coming into this a bit late, but will try to help.
 
What are your settings currently set for:
 
Audio Interface: Sample Rate, ASIO Buffer Size
 
Sonar: Driver Mode, Sample Rate, Total Roundtrip Latency, Playback I/O Buffer and Recording I/O Buffer, and why not throw in the Prepare Using nnnn Milliseconds.
 
Thanks, 
 
I will take a look at the rest of the posts here in the meantime, 
 
Bob Bone
 

robert_e_bone
Hi - I am coming into this a bit late, but will try to help.
 

Thanks Bob, I appreciate your offer of help. I'll answer your questions as best I can:

On WDMKS:
Digi 002 sample rate is 44.1k and buffer size 1024 samples (23.2ms).
Sonar on 44.1k, no round trip stated when in WDMKS, playback and record buffer both 256kb. I can't see a prepare using figure (nor field for that matter)

On ASIO:
Digi sample rate and buffer size the same. On the asio control panel the clock source is set to internal.
Sonar on 44.1k, round trip 2398 samples (54.4ms), p and r buffers both 256kb. Again, no sign of a prepare using field sorry.

In the project section of preferences the source is set to audio as opposed to internal (as above). No idea if that has any relevance but thought I'd mention it.

Thanks

Prepare using is set at 250ms. Tried different values with no success.

Thanks - It is not quite clear on your ASIO audio interface ASIO Buffer Size setting - I take it your comment meant that it being 'the same' meant that it is a sample rate of 44.1 k and 1024 for a buffer size.  PLEASE correct that if I am mistaken.
 
Your Total Roundtrip Latency of 54 ms is WAY WAY WAY too high for recording.
 
Please try setting things as follows, for a test:
 
Audio Interface: Sample Rate 44.1 k ASIO Buffer Size of 128
Sonar: Driver Mode of ASIO, Sample Rate of 44.1 k, Record Bit-Depth of 24 bits.  
 
You want to try to record with a Sonar-reported Total Roundtrip Latency of around 10 milliseconds, or just under it a little, as a good balance.
 
Please give the above a shot, in a new project, with either audio or midi tracks, with NO added effects, just to see how it all plays back and records with the above settings I posted.
 
Thanks, 
 
Bob Bone