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  • X2 Continually Crashing When Recording (p.2)
2014/08/08 16:38:55
Keni
Thanks Bob and Beepster...

I'll look at that stuff too... I knew about some of the drive features that could be problematic but couldn't find any switches for such anywhere. On some drives it can't be turned off if I remember correctly... And laptops typically use every trick they can to deal with power consumption and battery life issues, so I wouldn't be too surprised...

This thing has some kind of WD drive I believe, but as I mentioned in the posts I just made, I'm now over 29 minutes without a problem so I should be ok even if it's hits a limit here.... 29:30 and running... 30 minutes!

I think that's long enough to test for my needs here...

Thanks again!
Keni
2014/08/08 16:48:04
Beepster
Ah yes... I just remembered. The WD power management thing is called Intellipower. Lots of info on the net about it. I'm not sure if you can directly fiddle with it but if so it would probably be through the Device Manger Hard Disk properties page(s).
 
Cheers.
2014/08/08 17:15:23
Keni
I found some little util that I think is 3rd party... But it gave me all the access to all these power related features... I switched everything off that I found. But the drive sleep can't be turned off... Only set for a longer value (I wonder if a zero setting does this?)... But as the drive is active when recording, this shouldn't affect it?

Then I noticed that the driver update set the ASIO latency at 2048! <ouch!>

I set it back to 256 and put the machine in record... When I came back, the machine had crashed again... So I've just rebooted and I'm gonna set the ASIO back to 2048 and let it record... Why would a latency setting cause the machine to shut down?

Keni
2014/08/08 17:25:55
Beepster
0 settings (IIRC) do set many things to "Always On".
 
Third party utility? You mean you downloaded it from somewhere? I don't think you should have to do that. Sounds hinky but whatever works I guess.
2014/08/08 18:08:52
Keni
I hate buying machines with all kinds of crap installed... I don't remember the name of the util but it did not look like a Microsoft util at all. I'd look for the name, but the machine just crashed so I'm waiting long enough for it to recycle...

It was now crashing every 7-8 min yes as it was originally... I went back to the util and re-enabled the USB power setting and it then ran near 30 minutes again before crashing... It must be worded funny and needs to be enabled to not interrupt? So I'm gonna go back and try changing all the other items back as well as I can to the earlier settings where it recorded 32 minutes and didn't crash?

Crazy stuff! I'll endeavor to get the name of the util this time... I'm booting up now...

Keni
2014/08/08 18:13:29
Keni
The util that displays as the only plan option other than balanced, is called:

Power4Gear Hybrid High Performance
2014/08/08 18:32:45
Beepster
So the utility that came with the system? If not I'd check Asus's website (which you probably have) for your model and try to figure out what they use for a power management thingie for that system.
 
However in the Windows go to Start > Control Panel > Power Options.
 
There you should see an option for "High Performance". If not you may need to click a button with an arrow button beside where it says "Show Additional Plans". Switch to High Performance and it SHOULD keep everything important running when the laptop is plugged in (but will use power  saving features when on battery).
 
From there (beside the option you have chosen) you should see "Change Plan Settings". If you click that you can do some minor changes BUT if you click Change Advanced Power Settings on that page then you get at the finite controls. There is an entry for Hard Disk which is pertinent here (as well as USB, CPU, etc). I turn ALL settings to be MORE that I expect to be using the system for. That means the screen (even DIM can potentially screw things up), disks, USB... anything in there at ALL. ALL OF IT! You never know what might make the audio skip or something screwup.
 
It does seem like you've already found all that though.
 
In the sidebar of the Power Options page (which you would be on if you see the stuff I described above) there should be an option called "Create A Power Plan" which will allow you to create a new power plan that will be saved and remembered by Windows and will appear in the list as Custom Plan alongside the Balanced and Performance plans. You can then switch to that whenever you want.
 
So if you don't want those hyper settings I just described you can create a new plan for audio then switch back and forth between plans as needed.
 
Also... you aren't using a USB hub or anything on this system are you?
 
Cheers.
2014/08/08 23:42:40
Keni
Beepster
So the utility that came with the system? If not I'd check Asus's website (which you probably have) for your model and try to figure out what they use for a power management thingie for that system.
 
However in the Windows go to Start > Control Panel > Power Options.
 
There you should see an option for "High Performance". If not you may need to click a button with an arrow button beside where it says "Show Additional Plans". Switch to High Performance and it SHOULD keep everything important running when the laptop is plugged in (but will use power  saving features when on battery).
 
From there (beside the option you have chosen) you should see "Change Plan Settings". If you click that you can do some minor changes BUT if you click Change Advanced Power Settings on that page then you get at the finite controls. There is an entry for Hard Disk which is pertinent here (as well as USB, CPU, etc). I turn ALL settings to be MORE that I expect to be using the system for. That means the screen (even DIM can potentially screw things up), disks, USB... anything in there at ALL. ALL OF IT! You never know what might make the audio skip or something screwup.
 
It does seem like you've already found all that though.
 
In the sidebar of the Power Options page (which you would be on if you see the stuff I described above) there should be an option called "Create A Power Plan" which will allow you to create a new power plan that will be saved and remembered by Windows and will appear in the list as Custom Plan alongside the Balanced and Performance plans. You can then switch to that whenever you want.
 
So if you don't want those hyper settings I just described you can create a new plan for audio then switch back and forth between plans as needed.
 
Also... you aren't using a USB hub or anything on this system are you?
 
Cheers.


Thanks Beepster...

All appears to be well. It turned out that disabling the USB power option caused it to crash... Once I enabled that again, it crashed once, but after the reboot was working fine... I then lowered the ASIO latency to 256 and I can now record at least 30 minutes with no crash... Probably longer but I haven't bothered to try. It's done 30 minutes plus twice in a row after recording, then shutting down, restarting and recording again... I'm feeling pretty confident in it right now...

Thanks for sticking with me...

Keni
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