CakeAlexS
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And you still do not know what application can do to drive system crazy till it is rebooted? I do not mean bugs in the system, I mean wrong use of the system.
And if you think my question is theoretical, no. I was forced to work with one program which did that with graphic system. And many times with other system components as well. In one case you could simply wait 15 minutes before program restart instead of rebooting the computer, no system bugs involved, "following standards" pure (this example is from networking).
I do not claim there is this bug in SONAR. But I claim your statement is naive...
Sorry but what is a 'graphic system' or do you mean display adapter.
I mean Software Graphic System, which includes (graphic) driver, related OS components (core, window and desktop managers, etc.) and corresponding APIs.
What is 'bugs in the system'.
Either general mistakes in the framework concept or mistakes in concrete realization of that framework.
What do you mean by an 'example from networking?' The drivers? The TCP/IP stack?
I have not seen cases when waiting 15 minutes between closing and new starting of application could solve some problem in case the application had bugs in graphic related code. But I have seen that with network related programs. And yes, TCP/IP stack related. And I also think in case you have experience in network programming, you should understand why it is possible.
What is a 'program restart' are you talked about processes?
First closing some application and then starting it.
What specifically is a 'system bug'.
=='bug in the system'
What does 'driving the system crazy' mean?
When some particular application affect the (operation) system. Making it slow/unstable/crashing other applications.
Is there voodoo somehow involved?
Computers are invented and implemented by normal people. No voodoo involved.
I suggest getting your terminology straight and getting a grip with the basics before coming up with a decent counter arguement that can be discussed in a sensible manner.
Too late, I have already written my previous post
The post is meaningless (what are you talking about?) and if you had read my post correctly, not relevant.
I have no problem with the fact that my post is meaningless and not relevant for you. But that was forum post, not PM.
Seriously, I know you really help many users and provide many informative statements. In that context you deserve big respect. But we all have bad days when we come to strange conclusions, using arguments like "my is bigger".
Reading your posts in this thread, I have understood you position as the following:
"In case program X has problem, but this problem disappear only after system restart and not after the program restart, the problem comes not from the program but from something else". I disagree with that statement. Taking your number of posts and activity, casual readers can accept your conclusion as a rule. That is why I have posted (with some explanation) my opinion.