I also suggest saving to the cloud.

never
I'll only save when I know I want to keep my changes

rbowser


"...Here's what I do: I "save" after making edits and I "save as" after making significant edits..." Word for word out of my own book, Mike. That routine works for me. I haven't lost work in years. My project folders aren't over-flowing with multiple versions, just a reasonable number of them. And it feels good that I'M under control of saving. No problem - auto save is a fine option, I'm sure, but I so don't need it. RB (footnote - the Forum's text scripting is off this morning, on my machine anyway - I couldn't pull out the quote I wanted, and formatting tools like bold, italic, aren't available. ---?)

snap

Nope, never use any sort of Auto save on ANY program, including Sonar.

It's either ctrl + s or I'll do a save as if what I've just been doing is important or radical enough to warrant an incremental name

I use Auto Save and have it set to save every 60 seconds. The reason I do that is I seem to have fewer crash related problems with plug-in's, bitbridge, drivers ... etc. I've never had it cause stuttering like I've seen a few folks report, but I'm not saying I don't believe them ... I imagine it depends on buffer size and the size of your project/.cwp file.

I never save the actual project .cwp until I'm 100% certain I like the changes I've made. Having it set to 60 seconds pretty much ensures that 99% of the changes I've made are safely stored. You don't have to set it by time ... you can set it to save after so many changes. I prefer to do it by time because it just seemed to make my system more stable when it saved on a regular basis.

The reason I went to 60 second intervals is, I used to have it set for 5 minute intervals but had some crashes that corrupted my regular project file and then I had to go back and make too many changes, so I set it for 60. I seem to have much fewer problems with crashes with it enabled and I have a project open for a long period of time.

I did stop using Auto Save though in X1 because there is a bug that causes the Tool Bar to lose all it's icon's and turn gray on some systems with it enabled, unfortunately mine is one of them.

I do a save every other change and a save as after 7 minutes or so...

"Bristol_Jonesey"
Nope, never use any sort of Auto save on ANY program, including Sonar.

It's either ctrl + s or I'll do a save as if what I've just been doing is important or radical enough to warrant an incremental name change

Ditto. Word for word. 

Ctrl+S so much I do it in my sleep...then both save, as original and save as, as backup.  And still I get caught out now and again.  Back when X1 was so crash prone, I'd constantly do things like instantiate a Waves plug (for instance) without first Ctrl-Sing and then just sit there in agony while waiting for the GUI to finally pop up just "knowing" Sonar was fixing to crash...which it very occasionally would.  With X1C I'm back to swaggerville tho.  I still Ctrl+S all the time...but I also instantiate with impunity.

John T


Regarding the "under control of saving" thing, I'm guessing that at least some people don't know exactly how it works; it's actually quite nifty, and deals with that issue rather well.

If you open a file and start working on it, the auto-saves are not saved to that file. They go to a seperate copy called "Auto save of xxxxxxxx". You can work all day and not change your original file at all. It's only when you do a user-invoked Save that the original is replaced. If you don't do a user invoked Save at any point, you'll still be able to get to the auto-saved version as well as the original.

That's interesting JT,
I guess I'm in the "don't know how it works" camp as I don't use it.
Didn't like how it was implemented in the past, but I may have to try it again.
Then again, I haven't lost any projects with corrupt files or crashes for I don't know how long, so I guess it ain't broke...

I think a great enhancement would be to get the Sonar open file process to handle all this for you. So rather than having to go messing about in the Windows file system digging up your version file and auto saves and so on, you'd just go to your usual file, but with some selectable options like "choose from version history" and whatnot. More a change in presentation than in how it actually works. I think more people would get more use out of it.