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2014/06/26 21:38:16
ampfixer
Older, analog recording technology was sloppy by today's standards, and that's why I like it. It lacks the precision of modern digital and just sounds more "comfortable". There is no technical reason for my preference. I do know that my enjoyment of digital audio grew substantially once I started to play it back through a 1959 tube Hi-Fi hooked to a set of old 2 way speakers. It delivers the fix with no pops or clicks.
2014/06/26 21:39:58
John T
As I understand it, vinyl records aren't making a comeback in sales terms. There's an emergent niche market for vinyl records that will see off its final days for a while yet, but overall, the decline remains steadily downwards.
2014/06/26 21:45:13
ltb
Here you go, not only vinyl but mono as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdKjMWBZygs
2014/06/26 21:51:32
Jimbo 88
My 1st job was working at a recording studio transferring music library music beds from records to 1/4 in tape.
 
I hate records.  I had to make sure there where no pops.  If a record got bad I would put a little distilled water in the grooves so as to lift the dirt out.  I fought with records and vinyl all day long. CDs and digital audio came along and made my life sooo much better.
 
Having said that,  I do miss the warmer sound.  But I'm going to side with Bitfliipper and Robert...It's the mixing and mastering that is different.  The Wow and flutter,  pops and crackels,  I can live without.  If I never play a record again it will be too soon.
 
I did get a big chuckle the 1st time my 22 year old son tried to play a record on a record player.  With a very confused look on his face he turns to me with the arm in his hand and said,  "where do I place this,  where is the beginning??".
It just so hard for me to imagine someone not knowing how a record works.   I am OLD.
2014/06/26 22:08:03
Splat
Just Transfer CD to Wav and then into Sonar. Put it through a little compression and turn the treble up a little. For bonus points add izotope Vinyl plugin then save as a FLAC. For experimentation also do a mono version.

Play it to your audiophile friend who likes vinyls, make sure you pretend to play a real record at the same time without any audio coming out of it.
2014/06/27 00:15:10
AT
One of the reasons I like to transfer albums to digital is the "warmth" of the old format.  But invariably, even if I record hot, they are lower in volume than the latest CD or download.  No problem - just turn up the volume knob.
 
As to scratches - I wouldn't recognize Gary Newman's 1st album w/o the scratches.  "you are in my hearing ...."
2014/06/27 00:46:04
Vastman
It's simple... humans are idiots... plunging into global warming, fracking our water supplies... and now... records
 
most blindly go where other point... sheeple!
2014/06/27 01:08:08
Ruben
Guitarpima
I think vinyl only came back because of the loudness war.

 
bitflipper
I don't think it's entirely due to nostalgia, although that's a factor. I really think Robert got it right suggesting a connection to the loudness war. Vinyl just can't be mastered as hot as a digital recording, so it has to be done more conservatively.

 
I think that (digital loudness) is a part of it, but mainly in the sense of vinyl users saying "I think my vinyl records sound better than modern CDs", which I believe is what BF is alluding to. I hang out at some forums and lists, and this is what is repeated a lot. There certainly is some nostalgia effect, but there are a lot of newer vinyl listeners who have never used vinyl before (hence little/no nostalgia) who have jumped aboard the vinyl resurgence and enjoy vinyl for the same reasons that I enjoyed records in the 70s.
 
 
Guitarpima
Now that there is a standard to contain the loudness of digital music, vinyl will fade away.

 
Standards for digital loudness aren't really connected to current vinyl usage - to assume that is to not understand why people are buying records. And vinyl never really went away in the first place - there have been lots people like myself playing records all along, and record pressing plants have stayed in business continuously pressing records since the 70s. There are artists from every decade who have released albums on vinyl. In fact, if it's really more connected to the loudness wars as you assume, vinyl may be around as long as there are digital plug-ins available to squash the sound.
2014/06/27 01:08:08
Ruben
Guitarpima
I think vinyl only came back because of the loudness war.

 
bitflipper
I don't think it's entirely due to nostalgia, although that's a factor. I really think Robert got it right suggesting a connection to the loudness war. Vinyl just can't be mastered as hot as a digital recording, so it has to be done more conservatively.

 
I think that (digital loudness) is a part of it, but mainly in the sense of vinyl users saying "I think my vinyl records sound better than modern CDs", which I believe is what BF is alluding to. I hang out at some forums and lists, and this is what is repeated a lot. There certainly is some nostalgia effect, but there are a lot of newer vinyl listeners who have never used vinyl before (hence little/no nostalgia) who have jumped aboard the vinyl resurgence and enjoy vinyl for the same reasons that I enjoyed records in the 70s.
 
 
Guitarpima
Now that there is a standard to contain the loudness of digital music, vinyl will fade away.

 
Standards for digital loudness aren't really connected to current vinyl usage - to assume that is to not understand why people are buying records. And vinyl never really went away in the first place - there have been lots people like myself playing records all along, and record pressing plants have stayed in business continuously pressing records since the 70s. There are artists from every decade who have released albums on vinyl. In fact, if it's really more connected to the loudness wars as you assume, vinyl may be around as long as there are digital plug-ins available to squash the sound.
2014/06/27 02:12:58
TomHelvey
Analog baby. I think vinyl is making a resurgence for the same reason some people still use tube amps and record on 2" tape, it sounds just a little warmer. Yeah, you get pops and scratches and they wear out fast, but they have a sound. Some studios still record on 2" 24 track, then import the audio into the box for mix down, it just sounds better when you do that.
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