I use AS for correcting my wayward guitar playing and we have been getting on fine ever since Cakewalk decided to make it work again. If I'm doing a rythym guitar track I just use 1/16 quantise and if it's a solo I'll go in and move notes manually. When I've finished messing about, I bounce the clip to get rid of AS and off I go.

I do too from time to time (lazy, lazy..replaying properly is always the better option). But do you find you get the exact same guitar tone when you then bouce to clip? I always keep a copy of the original on separate track and compare it to the quantised one.

I've always found the quantised one has less dynamics (gets crushed a bit) and the tone can be affected also.

That is the case even where markers haven't been moved / quantised. I've tried every radius options, but always find the sound to be degrated a little.

Have you?

 The thing that drives me mad with AS, is that when you want to add it on a small portion of an isolated clip, it nevertheless create transients on every single clip on the track.

This gets really annoying as if you don't manually select each clip and swirch off audiosnap for them, everytime you load your project X1 is "building transients".

This is a right pain in the ass, but maybe it is me using it wrong?

So, is there an alternative to audiosnap? a great plugin that would do what As does but better? a bit like melodynne does, loads your clip in its interface and deas with it there until you bounce it back?

I'm pretty much old-school in that if a drum or bass performance is so out of time that it requires extensive remedial re-alignment then that track simply needs to be re-recorded - maybe after some rehearsal time. I've talked my way out of having to salvage an overly-sloppy song by convincing the artist that the end result would still be unacceptable. And it would. 

bitflipper

well said,as usual.this is the down side of digital recording.i`ve actually cancelled sessions due to poor timing and playing and refuse to "fix it in the mix" which seems to be the general thinking now that the studio time is affordable and available to anyone.

V-Vocal,Audiosnap,AutoTune,Samples blah,blah blah-bring back the 8track..........................
 

vinny199


 

I use AS for correcting my wayward guitar playing and we have been getting on fine ever since Cakewalk decided to make it work again. If I'm doing a rythym guitar track I just use 1/16 quantise and if it's a solo I'll go in and move notes manually. When I've finished messing about, I bounce the clip to get rid of AS and off I go.

I do too from time to time (lazy, lazy..replaying properly is always the better option). But do you find you get the exact same guitar tone when you then bouce to clip? I always keep a copy of the original on separate track and compare it to the quantised one.

I've always found the quantised one has less dynamics (gets crushed a bit) and the tone can be affected also.

That is the case even where markers haven't been moved / quantised. I've tried every radius options, but always find the sound to be degrated a little.

Have you?

I use an unaffected recording (i.e. I monitor the guitar going through whatever patch I'll eventually use but I record the basic (clean) output of my guitar), I then use AS (if required) and then put it through Pod Farm. I wouldn't use AS on a finished recording.
If you keep things sensible there is no indication of any messing about with the timing but, like I said, I wouldn't do it on a "dirty" recording.
 
Grum. 

vinny199


 The thing that drives me mad with AS, is that when you want to add it on a small portion of an isolated clip, it nevertheless create transients on every single clip on the track.

This gets really annoying as if you don't manually select each clip and swirch off audiosnap for them, everytime you load your project X1 is "building transients".

This is a right pain in the ass, but maybe it is me using it wrong?

So, is there an alternative to audiosnap? a great plugin that would do what As does but better? a bit like melodynne does, loads your clip in its interface and deas with it there until you bounce it back?

What I would do here is to split out the clip you want to AS then drag it down into an otherwise empty track. Do your work on it, bounce it down, then drag it back.

Is there an easy way to drag a clip into an empty track without shifting it's position horizontally (time)?

JazzSinger


Is there an easy way to drag a clip into an empty track without shifting it's position horizontally (time)?

Hold the shift key while dragging.

So easy! Thanks, musicroom!

 

What I would do here is to split out the clip you want to AS then drag it down into an otherwise empty track. Do your work on it, bounce it down, then drag it back.

Yes, it is also what I do, but I so often forget to do it, especially when working with layers, I do get confused quite easilly.

It would be so much easier and better if it was possible to activate audiosnap only on the selected clip. Maybe they will develop that sometime. Thanks for your advice.

I use an unaffected recording (i.e. I monitor the guitar going through whatever patch I'll eventually use but I record the basic (clean) output of my guitar), I then use AS (if required) and then put it through Pod Farm. I wouldn't use AS on a finished recording. If you keep things sensible there is no indication of any messing about with the timing but, like I said, I wouldn't do it on a "dirty" recording.

Yes, I do only edit the dry signal. I do not have any "timing" problem when using audiosnap. It quantises pretty much as I need most times.

What I mentioned was a slight audio deterioration when bouncing to clip of the quantised part, regardless of which radius bounce option I choose.

I can most time notice a difference between the quantised track and the original version. 90% of the time it is so slight it is perfectly usable, but in some instances I found it to affect the tone too much and re-recorded the part.

I've been trying to do a simple tempo extraction from an audio track that was recorded with sequenced drums with Audiosnap in Sonar X3e.  Should be pretty easy for Audiosnap to grab that tempo.  But not the case.  Tempo starts drifting 6 measures in.  But what is really irritating is that when I trying to edit the first beat in measures that are off, Sonar crashes. 
I would gladly pay for a third party plugin that would accomplish this simple task.