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2014/07/23 20:50:46
BENT
I Have a pair of KRK Rokit 5's and I can't find anywhere in the manual about “Placement Height”.
The KRK Rokit 10's manual recommends that the listener's ears be at the height of the (small) space between the 4" and the 1" drivers. Would this pertain to the Rokit 5's as well?

Could someone place a link to info on this?

Thanks
2014/07/23 20:54:47
Leadfoot
General rule is that the tweeter be at ear level.
2014/07/23 23:16:19
yorolpal
About 3 or so feet apart.
2014/07/23 23:31:22
John
If they are near fields they should be at ear level. A near field has a very narrow dispersion field. They should be pointed to the point where your head is. The ideal is a triangle where the near fields position form the base line and your head is at the apex. 
2014/07/23 23:54:19
sharke
What about angled up slightly? My isolation pads do that but I have little idea why. I figure it must be a plus otherwise they wouldn't have made them with a slope. 
2014/07/24 00:12:55
John
sharke
What about angled up slightly? My isolation pads do that but I have little idea why. I figure it must be a plus otherwise they wouldn't have made them with a slope. 


Again because near fields have a narrow dispersion of high frequencies as long as you are close to the axis of the tweeter not off axis it shouldn't matter if they are tilted up a little. You may need to adjust them with a wedge that will allow you to have them pointing at your ears.  In contrast normal loud speakers try to have as wide of a dispersion as possible. But keep in mind that normal speakers are not supposed to be listened to too closely. They are not meant to be toed in either. Think of near fields as more like headphones. Not that they are. 
 
One point though they shouldn't be so close to you that you can discern a sonic separation between the woofer and tweeter.  
2014/07/24 06:48:51
Bristol_Jonesey
John
If they are near fields they should be at ear level. A near field has a very narrow dispersion field. They should be pointed to the point where your head is. The ideal is a triangle where the near fields position form the base line and your head is at the apex. 


I angle mine downwards simply because my monitor stands are slightly too high. Having my monitors flat on the stands points the tweeters a few inches above my ears, which isn't ideal
2014/07/24 09:18:18
The Maillard Reaction
John
If they are near fields they should be at ear level. A near field has a very narrow dispersion field. They should be pointed to the point where your head is. The ideal is a triangle where the near fields position form the base line and your head is at the apex. 



There's probably something more ideal than this ideal.
 
Let us put things into perspective here; Any three points form a triangle and the three apexes are are called apexes.
 
If you define a line between two points as a baseline, a third point placed anywhere in Cartesian space that isn't on that line (and its linear projection) will form a triangle.
 
Placing the speakers and the listening position (a.k.a. your ears) in the formation of an Isosceles triangle is traditionally thought of as nearly ideal.
 
Some people regard an Equilateral triangle ( a subset of the Isosceles set) as an ideal.
 
As an example of an equilateral triangle layout; If the line formed by the speakers is 3 feet from driver to driver than the listening position will be 2.598 feet measured perpendicularly from the center of that 3 foot "line".
 
I don't have strong opinion about what sort of Isosceles triangle that I use. I tend to gravitate to something close to an Equilateral choice or sometimes a layout where the vertex angle is smaller than the base angles. If the vertex angle is much wider than the base angles the stereo spread can become unnaturally wide. I think that consideration of proximity to side walls should be incorporated into the decision with a desire to keep as much distance between the speakers and the side walls as practical or possible. In many cases a regard for proximity to the side walls will preclude a placement where the vertex angle at the listening position will be wider than 60*. In the end it just depends on where the listener places their head. If you start with an Isosceles triangle layout you can move forward and hear the stereo "spread" wider or move backward and hear the stereo "blend".
 
 
 
Turn it up!!!
 
 
2014/07/24 10:00:56
CJaysMusic
sharke
What about angled up slightly? My isolation pads do that but I have little idea why. I figure it must be a plus otherwise they wouldn't have made them with a slope. 


No! Do a perfect 3 foot triangle with your head at the center point of that triangle. Then the height level is determined by your ears. As stated above, the tweeters must be ear level. 
 
Also, you should not have your monitors against the wall. There should be at least a 3 foot buffer between your studio monitors and the wall you are facing and the side walls as well.. This is for the reduction of reflections.  Each room is different and treated and tuned differently, so the position in the room needs to be tested thoroughly before deciding on the permanent position of your monitors
 
CJ
2014/07/24 14:26:22
brconflict
In my experience, the tweeter and woofer need to be equidistant from your ears. The monitors should also be vertically oriented so that the two drivers are panned no further left or right from the other driver(s), and the distance apart is critical to the speaker's design. Use the manufacturer's recommendations, if they offer suggestions.
 
Angled speakers on pads, I believe were assuming the speakers are situated slightly above your ears on top of a flat hutch or surface above the mixing console.
 
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