Your not transferring plugins, your transfering the wave files that have the plugin sounds bounced into them. You cannot transfer the pro tools project with all its plugins into a sonar project and have it show its plugins. There 2 different programs. 
 
Cj

Hello All,
 
I apologize for all of the questions, particularly after receiving good advice.  Thus far, I'm good on exporting the .wav files out of Pro Tools and have learned that the plugins are included once they've been bounced.  Thank you for you help with this.
 
Anyhow, I have the .wav files from Pro Tools.  I've tried to import them into Sonar.  However, after I import a track, I just see a series of dots as opposed to the wave forms.  I've selected the options that allow me to import a Broadcast Wave (as described on the Sonar documentation pages seen here: ). 
 
I can send screenshots, if that helps.
 
Incidentally, I've used Sonar X1 on my own for several years to record MIDI tracks mixed with audio tracks (via an M-Audio Fast Track device).  These have recorded/played back fine.  Could it be I have a setting incorrect as I import the files?
 
Again, I really appreciate the help I've received.  CJ, et al, if you live in the DC metro area, I'd happily buy you dinner and drinks for solving my issue.  You rule. 
 
Thanks again,
 
Dan
 
 
 

If you're importing broadcast waves, check that the clips aren't about an hour down the timeline on SONAR - I think PT adds some type of "buffer" like that.

You are correct, Steve C!  I checked the full line and the recorded line started playing at an hour, eleven minutes!  I'm assuming I have a time stamp problem, no?  Do you have an idea of how to eliminate this and make sure all instruments start at zero?  Perhaps the wave files I have do not have the bext file embedded correctly?
 
Thank you, kind sir!  
 
Dan

Cool!   Glad that worked.
 
There is a Preference for importing Broadcast Waves at their designated time stamp:
http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Recording.33.html
 

Okay, I'm going to get weird.  
 
Suppose I sent someone 270 audio wave files from Pro Tools that apply to a single song (raw Pro Tools wave recordings for eight individual instrument/vocal tracks, but with an ungodly number of plugins associated with each track), which all focus on eight individual instruments/vocals (with extensions for which I don't realize what they mean), could such a person bounce those eight tracks back in a manner individually into eight separate tracks with which I could import to Sonar X1 Essentials with the same time-stamp so that I could simply adjust the volume levels on those individual instruments on said song without any weird time differentials?  That is all I want to do.  
 
And then, could that same person proceed to explain what they did (with screenshots) so I could learn how to to this in the future?  
 
Just throwing this out there,
 
Dan

drhauser
Okay, I'm going to get weird.  
 
Suppose I sent someone 270 audio wave files from Pro Tools that apply to a single song (raw Pro Tools wave recordings for eight individual instrument/vocal tracks, but with an ungodly number of plugins associated with each track), which all focus on eight individual instruments/vocals (with extensions for which I don't realize what they mean), could such a person bounce those eight tracks back in a manner individually into eight separate tracks with which I could import to Sonar X1 Essentials with the same time-stamp so that I could simply adjust the volume levels on those individual instruments on said song without any weird time differentials?  That is all I want to do.  
 
And then, could that same person proceed to explain what they did (with screenshots) so I could learn how to to this in the future?  
 
Just throwing this out there,
 
Dan

No, the other person cannot bounce the effect if you send him the 270 raw tracks from a pro tools session. all this guy will have is a HUGE mess and the 270 raw files will not make any sense and will not be in sync. 
 
You are making things way way way harder than they should ever be. Just send him the 8 tracks that are rendered, they will be in sync when you consolidate them. Then the other person can do what ever he wants with them. 
 
You MUST bounce each track to a single wave file. Its your option if you want the bounced wave files to contain the rendered sounds from the effects or not. But the other person with a different program or the same program, will never have any access to your plugins when you sen him wave file or raw files form a pro tools session.
 
You MUST Consolidate the audio when sending your tracks to another person with another program. Wave files do not contain the actual plugins where the other person can open the plugin and adjust it. That is not what a wave file does.
 
 

Dan
 
I agree that the 270 raw ProTools files will be essentially unusable. I've done a lot of importing into Sonar from ProTools and it just needs a small amount of attention at the ProTools export stage to save you from wasting a huge amount of time trying to assemble clips manually.
 
Ask them to lengthen each track so that every one starts at time 0 and finishes at the end of the song, and export each track individually. This will mean adding a lot of silence in many cases, but will mean you can check that all the exported AIF files have exactly the same length. 
All these functions are basic to all the DAWs (ProTools, Cubase, Sonar, Logic,...) - it's just the terminology which is different. I've sometimes offered to go and do the export myself, or offer to pay them something if they are being obstructive; it usually shames them into doing it, because it's simple.
 
Make sure that when you import each track it goes EXACTLY at time 0: I do this by dragging the bounced audio into a new track in the Track View one by one, looking at the indicator near the top of the screen to make sure it's going at time 0. Having Snap on and set to (say) 1/2 will help. 
 
For the effects, you could get close to what you want by having two versions of each of the 8 tracks bounced out of ProTools: one bounced with effects applied (wet), one without (dry). Don't use both together, but you'll then at least be able to tell what sound difference the effect chain has been making, and either keep it (by using the wet version) or try and re-create its effect on the dry version of the track by choosing Sonar plugins that you do have. There's always a way to get close with Sonar X3 Producer, IMHO.
 
 

Thank you, CJ and Roger, for your advice.  It sounds like
a.) I am making this more difficult than it needs to be and;
b.) It would have been really helpful if the studio had exported the tracks as Roger has suggested.
 
The studio dumped the 270 wave files onto a hard drive.  Since the tracks appear to start and stop over the course of an hour and fifteen minutes and are completely out of sync, would I be correct in thinking that the start times had not been assigned to the same arbitrary point in time?  If so, would there be anyway I could import these files into our version of Pro Tools and be able to sync them up, bounce them, and then export?  Or am I basically SOL?
 
Thank you again!
 
Dan

The start times are not correct because they are the raw pro tool tracks. They are not wave file that have been consolidated and exported. 
 
There is no way to import them and make then sync as you do not have the actual pro tools session, correct? you just have the raw files.
 
Call that studio and tell them they screwed up. If its a professional studio, they should know how to export wave files to be used in other programs. Its done all the time..
 
CJ