• SONAR
  • Sonar X3e and Slate digital VBC
2014/07/13 16:58:33
Soundblend
I got a problem and want to know if anyone have the same issue.

Got the Slate digital VBC v1.1.0.10 installed as 64 bit plugin.

When i insert the VBS rack in any VSTi track it works as it is supposed to do.

The issue is when i put it on a single audiotrack ( Vocal ) as an insert 
It peaks out and the meter on the fg-grey hit the roof with a crackling / popping sound
and the sound disappears from every track i have.

I tried the separate plugins as well, and it happens to the fg-grey and the FG-RED
but not the FG-MU !

It does not help if i deactivate the VBC in the FX bin, it is still the same.

I need to delete the plugin, hit E to disable FX's, then Hit E again and the sound is back.
but then of course i have no Compressor in the vocal track.
I can repeat it several times.....  and it's the same.

Strange that this only happens in a audio track and not in the VSTi track FX bin ?

I have the audio ( Vocal ) in one take lane, i have bounced it down, i cant figure this out.
I have even tried to delete Delay and Reverb send's on the track, but that does not help at all.

Cant figure this out, any suggestions ?

Picture : https://imageshack.com/i/nmvtnlp 

Installers : https://imageshack.com/i/ndpbeup 

Is there something with the installers ?
The Legacy installer ( v1.0.1.6) is like 14.5 mb

The  v1.1.0.10 is 151mb and is ( Public beta's )
The  v1.1.0.8  is 144mb and is under public beta too

I am using v1.1.0.10 , Slate digital say : ( recommended for all users ) !

is there a problem because they are  ( beta's ) , and why the big difference in the file size !

Legacy or not , what is the difference and why the big change in file size ?

Any solution of the problem ?

Jan


2014/07/13 18:13:26
Soundblend
I uninstalled version 1.1.0.10 and installed the 1.0.1.6 just to try the legacy version
but it got the same issue, so now i am really confused.... Help !

Here's an picture  when audio is running but there's no sound :
https://imageshack.com/i/nmoua9p 

Anyone else having this issue ?

Maybe ill try install as vst 3 plugin to see if there's a change then

cause previous install was as vst 2 to keep my plugins in the same
folder as my VCC was.
 

Jan
2014/07/13 18:47:41
Soundblend
Argghhh.... still the same problem with the VST 3 version also
so it don't matter if it's vst 2 or vst 3 , it is the same issue still.

OK i don't  know what to do now !

Can anyone try to see if you will get the same issue.

Jan
2014/07/13 19:17:30
Sanderxpander
Just a wild guess, but have you tried using a larger ASIO buffer?

Also, it could be a stereo/mono thing? What happens on a VSTi with mono output, or on a bus that you've routed your audiotrack to?
2014/07/13 19:23:08
Soundblend
The VBC rack work when i create a VOX stereo buss and insert it there ,and route my mono vocal track to it.

1 step closer to a solution, maybe a mono issue, did not change my buffers.

It is buss compressors, so it is possible they just operate in stereo only !
But i want to use em on mono tracks as well....

Now i need to buy even more compressors that can handle mono signal 
I don't want a bunch of compressors.

They should be mono capable as well, cause i love the sound of those compressors.

So if i want to use Compression of those i need to create a BUSS track and route
the mono track to it....., that will be many BUSS'es duhhhhh.

Thanks for your head's up, Sander 

I was not thinking that the compressors, may only operate just in stereo at all, stupid me....
just got a simple mind dat's all

But there's maybe a problem, when we usually set a higher Ratio, the compressor should kick in more
but it seems to be, the opposite when i crank the ratio up on the fg-grey, with the same threshold level.

It kick in most at a the ratio of 2, while it should react more when ratio is raised to 4 or 10 !

Jan
2014/07/13 21:36:43
tunekicker
Turn off the 64-bit mix engine. Slate plugins don't seem to handle it very well.

Peace,

Tunes
2014/07/13 22:50:39
scook
Soundblend
So if i want to use Compression of those i need to create a BUSS track and route
the mono track to it....., that will be many BUSS'es duhhhhh.

Try changing the track interleave to stereo
2014/07/14 04:28:44
jps
According to this post on Gearslutz 2 days ago http://www.gearslutz.com/board/10253195-post775.html
they do have those mono VBC updates done and they'll be in the accounts soon.
All the best
Jan
2014/07/14 05:05:24
Soundblend
tunekicker
Turn off the 64-bit mix engine. Slate plugins don't seem to handle it very well.

Peace,

Tunes



Thanks for the info, but i'd really love to keep my 64-bit mix engine on:
https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2005278/What-is-the-64-bit-Double-Precision-Engine-checkbox-in-the-Options-Audio-General 

Slate digital have good programmers as i understand it, and this should be no problem
to sort out for a company like Slate Digital , if the 64-bit engine is a problem.
2014/07/14 05:15:07
Soundblend
jps
According to this post on Gearslutz 2 days ago http://www.gearslutz.com/board/10253195-post775.html
they do have those mono updates done and they'll be in the accounts soon.
All the best
Jan



Thanks for the info Jan

According to the Gearslutz / Slate Digital post:
"And for the record, even though we are completely maxed out to oblivion, we do have those mono VBC updates done and they'll be in the accounts soon."

That will be super great, to get mono support on the plugins. 
Strange that i cant find any info about it, at Slate digital then, maybe i am just blind.

This is such a great forum...

Jan


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