Now here is something i discovered by a fault :

I did insert VBC to a VSTi FX bin, then i CTRL drag'd the plugin to my mono ( vocal ) track
and it worked ! that is definitely strange... maybe it first read the track as stereo, and that "information"
was kept within the plugin in some way !

Then i deleted the plugin in the vocal track, and inserted VBC as usual on the vocal track
it freaked out again.

Then changed the Vocal track interleave to stereo
And then the VBC worked as insert on the Vocal track.

Definitely a mono issue .....

Btw: re-installed the latest VBC version again, VBC v1.1.0.10

Jan

I finally traded the VBC as I could not get it to work reliably in Sonar. Switching OFF the 64-bit engine helped, but didn't solve the problems. There is something flaky going on there, I'm sure of it.

smallstonefan
I finally traded the VBC as I could not get it to work reliably in Sonar. Switching OFF the 64-bit engine helped, but didn't solve the problems. There is something flaky going on there, I'm sure of it.

Yea it may be something, i noticed when i adjusted the Ratio on the FG-Grey from ratio 2  to 10
it compress less, there's something wrong here.....

A compressor shall compress more at ratio 10 than at 2.

Also the frequency range it seem to give less mid / hi mid range, but i guess
that is what Analog emulation is supposed to do.

Even if i like the sound open with clarity, defined mid's, punch in the low end and silky soft high end.

So what compressors and EQ's are you satisfied with, cause i am looking for the wohaaaaa feeling.
I am pretty picky when it comes to plugins. I am starting to get tired of searching
and broke at the same time ( just a hobbyist ) so i have no income, just for self entertainment, and learning.

I listen especially after how they sound " if they add / loose " something in the frequency ranges
that's my first priority, cant still say that i am happy with what i got so far, that goes for EQ and Compressors.

I have a bad habit of buying first and listen closely after.
( maybe the grass is greener on the other side of the fence ? ) or some kind of G.A.S !

I have tried some waves stuff, seems to sound ok good, but i don't like the huge CPU usage
and the " waveshell " thingy !, it also seem to add a lot into the registry, or loads of files here and there.
that's what it seems like to me.

Also tried a lot of other brands too, but ....

The more i try of plugins the more confused and irritated i get, seems like there's "something" with
more or less every plugin. I am about to give up..... but just almost.

What i thought was good for  2-6 years ago, is now considered not good at present time.
Maybe i have more training and know a bit more how to listen
or another taste of sound... , who know's

Have anyone tried something, or own stuff from URS , have not been demoing any of that
stuff in the later years.

The question is , will i ever be satisfied, i doubt that.... but it may happen once.

I am the kinda guy, that would like just 1 EQ and 1 compressor and maximum 2 of each
I think it is very important to know the plugins and also be happy with how they sound.

If i have several plugins i cant decide what to use, because i don't really know ea plugin that good

Yeah so less is more for me ( i got a simple mind and a big heart ) ,so if i just could just find my baby love. 

Jan 

Soundblend

But there's maybe a problem, when we usually set a higher Ratio, the compressor should kick in more
but it seems to be, the opposite when i crank the ratio up on the fg-grey, with the same threshold level.

It kick in most at a the ratio of 2, while it should react more when ratio is raised to 4 or 10 !

Jan

For some compressors the knee changes when you adjust the ratio. This is true for the ProChannel SSL type too.


When you increase the ratio, you also heighten the knee, so there is more compression but only at higher peaks. Could be that's going on here too.
 
As for other compressor options, I personally quite like the Cakewalk CA-2A, the Waves Renaissance and Kramer Pye and the Fabfilter Pro-C. All wildly different but worth checking out, I think. UAD stuff seems to be popular too, but I don't have their card.

Sanderxpander
For some compressors the knee changes when you adjust the ratio. This is true for the ProChannel SSL type too.


When you increase the ratio, you also heighten the knee, so there is more compression but only at higher peaks. Could be that's going on here too.

Just tested a bit, i put the fg-grey on my Master

At high threshold level  ( -12db ) and low ratio, it compresses most at ratio 2 and less at ratio 10

then i i lowered the threshold (-24db ) down and did a check again
now the compressor did compress more at ratio of 10.
Guess compressor is driven more on the input side then.

Did not know this, learning something new all the time.

Guess this is basic for old analog compressors then !
* high threshold and low ratio for max compression
* low threshold and high ratio for max compression

I was used to ordinary compressors, when you raise the Ratio the knee lower's
and you get higher compression an exsample is the, Sonitius Compressor.

Jan

Actually with the Sonitus compressor the knee stays the same when you adjust the ratio. You have a separate knee control there. Looking at it you can get a good idea of what I'm talking about. Imagine increasing the compression rate and simultaneously raising the knee. You would get less compression unless you also lowered the threshold. This would end up being more compression than using a lower ratio (and knee) with a higher threshold. The compressor would be active much more, but the actual compression it would be doing would be a lot less.
 

Yeah you got that right, i was thinking of the angle of the threshold curve itself .

While I haven't had the same trouble you have had - I have had enough crashes with the VBCs that I tend to not use them anymore.  I hope this gets fixed.

Phonic
While I haven't had the same trouble you have had - I have had enough crashes with the VBCs that I tend to not use them anymore.  I hope this gets fixed.

Ya, i cant afford to "dump" this compressors. $99 is to much to put in da trashbin.
And i am tired of selling too, then it is a fee, and iLOK licence transfers etc.. gahh.

I have actually deleted plugins for at least $500 - $600 on total for the past 2 years
just because i did not get satisfied by the performance of em.
That is much for someone living on social funds --- dat's me ;-)

I am not saying that VBC is bad, they'r better than many other compressors i have tried
but i need to know em of course. 

Hope Slate digital will release some updates, and then i need to dig into, and learn this compressors.

Thanks everyone.

Jan

I wonder if this is also a 1:1 100% percent accurate emulation of the original hardware.