I'm just curious if there is an easy way to do this...
 
I have a bass track, a piano track, and a synth/pad... They are all done with midi... The bass track is synced with live drums tracks via trigger-to-midi... Basically every time the kick or snare hit, a bass note is played...
 
I would like to now go back through, and sort of quantize / sync up the piano & synth pad with the bass track... I would LIKE to be able to view Multiple Piano Roll windows simultaneously, so that I can see the start & stop points for multiple tracks, and manually line them up where I need them to be.  As it stands, I have to open one track, click the timeline where the note starts, go back and open up another track, edit the note lengths, go back out to the first track, click the timeline again where the next note starts, go back out and open up the second track, and align that note, etc...
 
I feel like I'm probably missing some sort of handy functionality here, but since about 95% of the stuff I do is just live audio recordings through microphones (drums, guitars, etc...) I'm not AS fluent with all of the midi / piano roll options available.  Any suggestions on an easy way to do this?  I already have the "snap to midi" set as the only option so that I won't have to worry about it trying to match a tempo map that doesn't exist for this live track.  But when you're trying to "snap to midi" and the midi you're trying to snap to sometimes plays 16th notes, and you're trying to only snap to quarter notes, etc... It's just not quite working the way I'd like.
 
Not sure if I described my problem well enough, but if anyone needs clarification on anything, just let me know.  Any suggestions would be welcome.
 
EDIT:
The short question is... "is there any way to open multiple piano roll views simultaneously?  Or are you limited to only one track open at a time in piano roll view?"
 
EDIT #2:
Oooooh, nevermind... When the piano roll view is open, there is a "Track" menu, if you click that, then you have the option to "Show All Tracks"... That did the trick... I don't know why, but I always overlook those small menus inside the various views... (like the menu inside the track view)... Lots of handy features...

Yes, it pays to spend some time looking through all the menus to see what's there for future reference.
 
Check out the Pick Tracks option in that same menu. That let's you Ctrl-click only the MIDI tracks you need to see in the PRV. And make sure you go View > Show Track Pane, which gives you a pane at the right end of the PRV where you can change the focused track, mute and solo, and show/hide notes from each track without having to remove it from the PRV altogether if things get too busy or overlapping. You can also lock tracks against editing them inadvertently.

I do this all the time.  I set up a key binding for "pick tracks" and a few of the other menu picks - a real time saver.

If you want to align notes of multiple midi tracks, try inline midi editing:
 



I just threw in two midi tracks for the screen shot. You can even align with audio files. Huge time saver. In order to see this select "notes" in the track drop down menu. I keep it like this while working on a track and until I bounce to audio. Screen real estate matters a lot. If you have a bigger display then go for it.

Thanks everybody!  The show/hide track pane is definitely useful for what I'm wanting to do, and the "pick tracks" option is awesome too.  Both with definitely come in handy.  Ideally though, what I was HOPING to do, is that "Inline" thing you're talking about Satya... I can't figure out how you did it though.  I already have it set to show "Notes", so I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong.  How did you get two midi files to stack on top of each other like that?  I can get them to stack/overlap each other, in a single piano roll, using the "pick tracks" and options like that, but I don't know how to separate them so I can have different instruments, stacked on top of each other like in your example. 
 
Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  (And for the record, are you using X3b?)  I know some of the menus have changed a little bit since previous versions... Just making sure we're on the same page.

displaying inline prv http://www.cakewalk.com/D...eq=EditingMIDI.27.html

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displaying inline prv http://www.cakewalk.com/D...eq=EditingMIDI.27.html

 
Ooooooooooooh... I was double clicking, and dragging, and doing everything I could to make that happen INSIDE the Piano Roll view... That wasn't getting me anywhere... Once I held down CTRL and then double clicked on a midi track in the Track View window, then it all basically worked (and opened it up in a separate piano roll window).  So that will work.  I still don't think I'm getting it like Satya had it in the picture he posted, but this will work for now I guess.
 
Am I correct in assuming in HIS example, there are 3 tracks stacked (2 are midi) in a single window?  (So that if you zoom in on one, it will zoom in on all of them?)  If that's the case, then I can't figure that out.  I'm not sure why I'm having so much difficulty with this.

It is the main track view with one audio track and two MIDI tracks. The MIDI tracks have their edit filters set to notes which enables the inline PRV. So it is all happening in the track view. Zoom will work like it always does.
 

Oooooooooooooooooooooh... Ok, sorry about that hassle there... I've only used the "Clips" menu or whatever in the Track View a couple of times, and that was just to switch to Audio Transients... For some reason I wasn't even CONSIDERING the fact that there would be an option there to switch that to piano roll WITHIN the track view... I get it now, thank you very much!  Problem officially solved.

Just a quick tip... if you ever need to do this, yes, you can open multiple PRV views. After you open the first PRV, right-click its tab in the MultiDock and choose Lock Contents. Now you can open another PRV, and so on following the same steps.
 
Scott

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