2016/02/06 08:19:25
kakku
I did this old tune first with an version circa 1997 of band in a box then imported the midi to sonar x1. Now somehow first the file behaved strangely making it sound out of tune it but after a couple of hours I managed to put it right. Did some mixing and middle 8 and it was ready. Comments are welcome as always!

https://soundcloud.com/madrigal7/come-on-baby
2016/02/06 09:40:50
rbecker
Nice mix. I wish I could mix like that. I also like your instruments.
 
All my suggestions have to do with instrumentation.
1. The "airy" synth used in the intro never returns, and somehow does not seem to fit the rest of the tune.
2. The melodic line switches between the flute and the synth sound in a clearly delimited fashion. I would maintain the flute throughout, and add excitement by bringing the synth in either in unison or at the octave, at a lower volume than the flute to augment the melodic line. Maybe even in harmony.
3. From 2:15 to 2:45, it might be interesting to really change up the instrumentation of the melody - Maybe electric guitar or acoustic piano. Something with a bit of an edge to counter the mellow flute we have been hearing up to that point.
 
Good tune! 
2016/02/06 12:45:49
jkoseattle
I agree with the previous post about the airy synth. But I have bigger issues.
 
Composition-wise, I find the melody to kind of aimless, not memorable or interesting enough, kind of just noodling around. As I'm listening, I'm finding that one note in the melody is as good a choice as any other, there needs to be more "inevitability", if that term makes any sense. When you get to the key change at about 3:00, that's a good idea to perk my interest, and you sort of built to it, but I would take that moment further. 
 
Mix-wise, I would take at least half the reverb off the drums and bass, and reduce it everywhere else as well. I think you'll find it has a lot more energy with much drier drums (though the transition as you turn the fader is initially shocking and sounds scary!). Also, There is a lot of sonic clutter in the low-mid range, I would take some low-end off the pad synth, and removing reverb from bass and drums will help clean that up.
 
But most importantly, I would spend time pulling the ropes a lot tighter on the tune. Good luck! Ain't all this fun?
2016/02/06 16:08:17
kakku
jkoseattle
I agree with the previous post about the airy synth. But I have bigger issues.
 
Composition-wise, I find the melody to kind of aimless, not memorable or interesting enough, kind of just noodling around. As I'm listening, I'm finding that one note in the melody is as good a choice as any other, there needs to be more "inevitability", if that term makes any sense. When you get to the key change at about 3:00, that's a good idea to perk my interest, and you sort of built to it, but I would take that moment further. 
 
Mix-wise, I would take at least half the reverb off the drums and bass, and reduce it everywhere else as well. I think you'll find it has a lot more energy with much drier drums (though the transition as you turn the fader is initially shocking and sounds scary!). Also, There is a lot of sonic clutter in the low-mid range, I would take some low-end off the pad synth, and removing reverb from bass and drums will help clean that up.
 
But most importantly, I would spend time pulling the ropes a lot tighter on the tune. Good luck! Ain't all this fun?

I like the melody like it is but I don't like your last sentence which sounds more like an attack than an appropriate sentence. Maybe you want to clarify a bit?
2016/02/06 16:19:17
kakku
rbecker
Nice mix. I wish I could mix like that. I also like your instruments.
 
All my suggestions have to do with instrumentation.
1. The "airy" synth used in the intro never returns, and somehow does not seem to fit the rest of the tune.
2. The melodic line switches between the flute and the synth sound in a clearly delimited fashion. I would maintain the flute throughout, and add excitement by bringing the synth in either in unison or at the octave, at a lower volume than the flute to augment the melodic line. Maybe even in harmony.
3. From 2:15 to 2:45, it might be interesting to really change up the instrumentation of the melody - Maybe electric guitar or acoustic piano. Something with a bit of an edge to counter the mellow flute we have been hearing up to that point.
 
Good tune! 

Thanks for your comment. I can try to fix some of the things you said if I have the time as I don't have much of it.
2016/02/06 16:20:56
jamesg1213
Nice tune Antti.
2016/02/06 22:40:10
kakku
jamesg1213
Nice tune Antti.

Thank you James.
2016/02/07 11:40:17
jkoseattle
Last sentence, meaning "ain't all this fun"? That was just what I meant. All this music-making stuff is a lot of fun. It's great to get to spend time doing this, that's all. No attack. Glad you like it the way it is.
2016/02/07 17:41:43
ABull
I didn't read any of the previous comments.
 
As the intro kept going, I kept thinking 'where's the singing?' and then I realized...
 
I like the 80s vibe to this and have no crits except (isn't there always an 'except' or 'but'?) this could have been turned into a nice song with vocals what with the melodic backing and all. But, that's just my thought :)
 
Allan
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2016/02/07 18:11:33
kakku
jkoseattle
Last sentence, meaning "ain't all this fun"? That was just what I meant. All this music-making stuff is a lot of fun. It's great to get to spend time doing this, that's all. No attack. Glad you like it the way it is.

I was kind of stunned how much negative you found on my tune so i misinterpreted the last sentence like one drop of negativity more and so I took it all more as an insult than an honest list of tips. Sorry for doubting your intentions, this sometimes happens to me. Btw one guy called me the king of uncool' based on this tune. Maybe that got me too defensive. Thanks for the tips.
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