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2016/11/18 19:43:49
yorolpal
Your thoughts??

Yup...I'm looking at Bias FX Pro.
2016/11/18 20:01:51
The Grim
i own them all and many more. imo s-gear2(scuffham) is over rated, i haven't fired it up since the 2.53 update maybe 18 months ago, it just doesn't sound or feel that good to me compared to others.
 
guitar rig, owned it since 3, own the latest, never use it, imo sounds like crap, cleans ok but overdriven, distortion, forget it, there are much better
 
amplitube, i own everything available for it, it's not bad, gets more use than the above.
 
bias fx pro, own it and bias amp pro, in my opinion a step above the rest
 
don't forget revalver 4, it is right up there, and with the release of the act stuff, especially act combo and act combo presets, oh what the hell even the act input modules, it has risen to the top for me (or equal top with bias stuff)
those act combo presets sound awesome. (you got to profile your guitar and a few other things, easy as, and results are awesome, imo of course)
 
for a long time i never touched revalver, it was all either bias fx pro or bias amp pro or sometimes th3 or amp 4. then the act combo thing came along and i gave it a whirl, and as they released more act presets (basically amps) i just began using revalver more and more, and not just the act combo side, even just the 'normal' stuff, now i pretty much use it exclusively, with the occasional switch, wish the stomps and fx racks were up there with bias fx pro though, but hey
2016/11/18 23:01:59
yorolpal
I tend to favor Amplitube mainly because it sounds fine and I prefer the GUI. Guitar Rig runs a close second as does Scuffham. I'm seriously considering adding Bias FX Pro but wanted to know what folks on the forum thought about it. Thanks so much, ol pal, for your feed back. I sincerely appreciate it.

I should mention that most of my stuff is either clean or just breaking up...I don't do much heavy stuff. Think Robben Ford or Larry Carlton.
2016/11/18 23:47:02
The Grim
what i have found in the past is that i may be noodling around with amplitube 3 or 4 or th2 or th3 or thermionik or whatever, and i'll just add drums and bass etc, every time when i switch the amp sim to bias amp or fx it's always just better, and i don't switch it back. i have at times done it in reverse, create the tracks with either bias amp or fx, then switch them out for one of the others and i immediately switch it back because it just doesn't have it. only revalver has ever withstood a switch.
 
in a similar vain as a test to myself, i'll sometimes just jam around with an amp sim, say one of the bias's, play for an hour or more so the sound is firmly in my head, then quickly switch to another amp sim with a similar sound dialed in, 99% of the time (100% really) the first thing i notice is a huge difference in sound quality for the worse, and i'll want to switch back immediately. again i can do it the other way and start of with another amp sim, get it firmly in my head, then quickly switch to one of the bias's, and it instantly sounds better. again revalver has been the only one to withstand the test, and usually it's with the act stuff loaded.
 
i started always using waves emo f2 i think its called, a basic hi/low pass plug, after bias, now i can't really use bias without it, it sounds so much better, don't really want to hear it without it, do it with any amp sim i use now and it always makes it much better. there's a few other things i do now days with amp sims waves ssl before, a send to a bus with valhalla room, which when i don't use them, well it's just not the same. can no longer use the standalone apps for any amp sim, i have to either fire up a daw or a vst host so i can set it up how i like it, it just sounds so much better. i would never use bias or any other amp sim without that hi/low pass
 
it's all a personal thing really, what sounds good to one doesn't to another, partly why i like to own everything so i can decide for myself. but they will all do the job, and there is things i like about them all, even gtr3 and amplion pro (well maybe not amplion pro )
2016/11/19 00:04:35
The Grim
yorolpal

I should mention that most of my stuff is either clean or just breaking up...I don't do much heavy stuff. Think Robben Ford or Larry Carlton.




bias can do that stuff good, and it has good fx. revalver will also do it, some of the act combo stuff in that vain is really nice, in any vain to be honest. the best part is if you already owned revalver, the act combo module was $40 or something, but the presets(amps) are $2.99, and for the sound they give you it's just amazing input act modules at $1.99, took me a while to work them out, but when i did i just smiled, awesome.
 
i have spent thousands on choptones packs for bias amp (they also work in bias fx, but you need bias amp as well) i have them all, and they are just awesome, the price could be say $40 for a complete pack (some $19, some $60 depending on the size of the content), where as a similar amp pack/act combo preset pack for revalver is $2.99, and they sound awesome.
 
of course as you know yourself, amplitube 3/4 will do what you want, so will most amp sims, i could just never get into sgear or guitar rig, i keep up to date with them, but they just don't click with me
2016/11/19 01:16:00
Sycraft
Of the guitar sims I've tried, Amplitube 4 seems to sound the most real with the least effort to me. Now I'm not a guitar player, I use Orangetree stuff to feed in to it. I find that I can most reliably get the kind of guitar sound I want out of it compared to other things.
 
I don't have all the ones you've listed, I have Amplitube 4, Guitar Rig 5, TH3, and Waves GTR. Of them, only Amplitube and TH3 are useful to me. I don't find I can get good sounds out of the other ones. I find TH3 a pretty distant second to Amplitube in general.
 
In particular I find the Mesa/Boogie amps to be really good.
2016/11/19 07:26:18
clintmartin
S-Gear fan here. It holds it's own with the best hardware modelers, but for clean Fender tones Amplitube Fender is hard to beat. I also own Revalver 4, but haven't used it enough to give a fair opinion (it seems pretty good).
I think it's hard to go wrong these days.
2016/11/19 07:28:24
cclarry
Amplitube is my go to...

S-Gear #2

I like the Bias Products, but their "System" is obtuse...

If you want "fx" you have to buy Bias FX, but if you want
the Amps, you have to buy Bias Amp, and, if you want to
use the Amps in "FX" you have to set them up in Amp and
then import them into FX....just DUMB IMO...

It's their "way" of FORCING you to buy BOTH products...
which, IMO, is a NO NO.
2016/11/19 08:05:53
Slugbaby
I have Guitar Rig and Amplitube.
 
I used GR for years, and it's benefit seems to be more for complex sounds.  If you want to blend 3 amps, 2 in series, 1 stuck in parallel somewhere, send a reverb through a delay pedal while only addressing frequencies between 1K and 4K, but only when you're picking/strumming velocity triggers the envelope, GR can do it.

I've used Amplitube for about a year, and it's my go-to.  It's better (IMO) for simpler tones.  If you want that Fender Twin or Orange Rockerverb emulation, you can get it.  For a stompbox/head/cabinet/mic streamline, Amplitube is better.
 
Even when GR was my go-to, I underused it.  I tried to just use the stompbox/head/cabinet/mic workflow.  It sounds okay, but loses out to Amplitube.  
Although in GR you can set a noise gate to blend in another amplifier stream when you pick/strum at a higher velocity, which can be a pretty cool effect.  I haven't seen a way to do that in Amplitube...
 
2016/11/19 10:08:03
Soundwise
ReValver is the winner in all amp-sim tests for me. Besides having the most natural amp/cab sound and behaviour, it has a special setting for the pickup estimated output. It's not just an input level, which ReValver has too (with auto-adjust capability!). As we all know, hotter pickups drive amps/pedals harder. But when you plug your guitar/bass into you AI, and adjust the input signal to a certain level, the difference between hotter and lower output pickups becomes obsolete for all the other amp-sims, except ReValver. Besides this, you can tweak amp/pedal schematic, set amp-speaker interaction, use input/output ACT profiles... And now with the ACT combo you can clone any legendary guitar amp sound or use profiles created by other users. It works like the real thing, no wonder it sounds and feels like the real thing. 
 
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