Tell ya what, find proof that their claims are fraudulent, I'll pay the lawyer and we'll split the take. You can't, because sound quality is subjective. Audiophiles don't CARE about your science, or what your spectrum analyzer says, or what YOUR ears tell YOU, only what THEIR ears tell THEM. To call them dupes for buying things like AO is pretentious at best.
 
In the meantime, can anybody here understand english? I DON"T CARE ABOUT AO's CLAIMS TO BETTER AUDIO QUALITY!!!! I'm trying to find out if their optimizations will improve DAW PERFORMANCE and RELIABILITY!
 
If you have no experience with the product, don't know anyone who does, and don't know about the kind of audio system optimizations that this type of product might make to Windows TO IMPROVE RESOURCE USAGE AND SHUT DOWN UNNECESSARY BACKGROUND OPERATIONS then PLEASE - YOU'VE NOTHING TO CONTRIBUTE! GO AWAY! Your dog needs to go for a walk! WAVES has yet another plugin to sell you that's guaranteed to make your mixes sound 73.6% better! ON SALE! THIS WEEKEND ONLY! HURRY!
 
There, now I feel better. Sorry for yelling, I just got through going round and round with yet another penguin who's absolutely CERTAIN that LINUX is poised to knock Apple and Microsoft out of the ring with it's fantastic audio capabilities. God bless 'em, they love what they do, and they really BELIEVE! Kinda like audiophiles and climate scientists on both sides of the global warming thing. Everybody's got their facts.
 
 
 
 

Oh, and Drew, step off your high horse and STFU.
 

rd2rk
Drewfx1 - 
 
You obviously have nothing to contribute to this discussion but ignorant vitriol, so please, STFU.
Thank you.

anyone who treats other on this forum by saying the above... lose my help. but then again im sure you don't care.
This place isn't Twitter or Reddit. 
I'd like to think, even if you don't agree with someone's opinion you don't need to go there with the old "STFU". that's childish and you are now on my blocked list. good luck.

Well said, Charlie. This ain't KVR, this is the sweet old Cakies forum. Let's keep it that.

rd2rk
Tell ya what, find proof that their claims are fraudulent, I'll pay the lawyer and we'll split the take. You can't, because sound quality is subjective. Audiophiles don't CARE about your science, or what your spectrum analyzer says, or what YOUR ears tell YOU, only what THEIR ears tell THEM. To call them dupes for buying things like AO is pretentious at best.

The reason I use a phrase like "audio - by which I mean a real thing in the real world" in discussions like this is that generally when talking about "the real world" we are talking about what we call "objective reality". It should be obvious that the way in which we learn about objective reality can't be subjective - by definition.
 
This doesn't seem to me like it should be particularly controversial - it's just keeping the objective and subjective separate. Unfortunately in some segments of the audiophile world there is a desire to pretend that one's subjective experience must be regarded as objectively real until proven otherwise. 
 
AO is a real thing in the real world. What it actually does in the real world is not subjective. The problem is that what it claims to do doesn't make any sense - when you're dealing with buffered data of any kind, if you don't have a buffer underrun (or overrun) then everything works as perfectly as it can be. If you do have an underrun, well anyone with a DAW knows what happens when we try to get our latency lower than our system can handle. The point is the system only has to have enough resources to handle the throughput at whatever the given latency is and then you're done. They are claiming otherwise and that's simply nonsense. 

OK Guys - Chill..!!  Peace, Love & all that
 
LET"S MAKE MUSIC !!!

Chuckebaby - so sensitive! 
 
Drew - I get what you're saying, but the actual audio quality is not the only consideration. A DAW uses resources in lots of ways, and there's lots of ways to cause a DAW to crash. Some of those have to do with the processor interrupting what's happening in the DAW to process some background task in Windows that has nothing to do with the DAW. That's the optimizing I'm interested in. As I stated early on, I'm not an audiophile by a long shot. My home stereo is still just that - stereo!
 
Hey, Drew, I hope you're not as sensitive as Chuckebaby. He'd last 15 minutes in my neighborhood. Strong talk begets strong talk. I can hang, can you?

rd2rkDrew - I get what you're saying, but the actual audio quality is not the only consideration. A DAW uses resources in lots of ways, and there's lots of ways to cause a DAW to crash. Some of those have to do with the processor interrupting what's happening in the DAW to process some background task in Windows that has nothing to do with the DAW. That's the optimizing I'm interested in. As I stated early on, I'm not an audiophile by a long shot. My home stereo is still just that - stereo!

 
 
Yes, as I said earlier there is potential benefit in freeing up CPU so that it can be utilized for the DAW. But that's just general optimization. The point I wa trying to make is that the claims they are making about improving audio quality are more than a little dubious and thus I would look elsewhere for optimization tips. There is a class of audiophiles that mistakenly believe that streaming back a few channels of audio is somehow difficult for a computer in 2017 and that they thus need a dedicated super-machine to handle it. That's very different from running a DAW with lots of channels, lots of processing and the lowest possible latency and I would stick to the DAW community for optimization tips.
 

Hey, Drew, I hope you're not as sensitive as Chuckebaby. He'd last 15 minutes in my neighborhood. Strong talk begets strong talk. I can hang, can you?

Well you were polite enough to say please STFU. 
 
But as a rule I think it's better communication to remove language and other things that aren't germane to the point you're trying to make, lest someone focus on those things rather than your actual point.

Hey, there's a free demo, so why not give it a try and see if it does improve your DAW performance? If you think the output from your master bus sounds better too (I trust you're sophisticated enough to make that determination as objectively as possible), then it's icing on the cake, isn't it?
 
Too bad the product's name contains "Audiophile," which is a trigger word for some people. :-)
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 

rd2rk   
Hey, Drew, I hope you're not as sensitive as Chuckebaby. He'd last 15 minutes in my neighborhood. Strong talk begets strong talk. I can hang, can you?

 
This will be my last and final comment and then I politely bow out.
 
Wow..tough little neighborhood.
 
Im sad to see your thread was moved. now no one will be able to find it.
See when you post a topic its supposed to go into a category.
(Sonar things go in the sonar category, hardware things go in the hardware category, audiophile software, in the software category stuff)  I don't know maybe your neighborhood never learned that.
 
Good luck with this snake oil... I mean audiophile app.
I also have a "left handed digital hammer" if your interested in buying that.
 
So is that better ? is that less sensitive for you ?
Maybe now I will last 20 minutes ? no ?